konaforever

Sad local dealers are in on the ADM game as well. Did the 5 spoken for have an ADM as well?

mooty

audi color on GT3...
just b/c they can doesn't mean they should

NCheok

While we're at it, let's see a show of hands from salty owners that whine about ADM, silently pay it and come out to say, they paid no ADM making themselves feel special.

michaeldorian

Same for me. Looks we’re just going to have to wait it out on both gens. Maybe next year. Sigh.

michaeldorian

This would be fantastic. And happy for PAG to take deposits online and even forecast how many cars they need to make.

EMdoc

My thoughts EXACTLY.

EMdoc

My thoughts EXACTLY.

motorwerksgroup

Well isn't Shark Blue a renamed VW color?

LexVan

Let's not go down this rabbit hole again.

Isn't black an original Ford color from like 1903??

LexVan

Oh, the ***** swinging never ends over here. And even included a pretty little, irrelevant to the context, picture, for good measure.

rhk118

Hahaha....I'm on their "list" and haven't heard a peep from them....must have had someone build that car and walk....otherwise why would a dealer spec one of these so soon...apparently they not very good at working down their list...so once again what's the point? (maybe its the fact I mentioned the 991.2 isn't on the table ​​​​​​​)

rhk118

I think the context is quite clear and relevant. This whole thread is stupid. There is no self-reflection here. These threads will change nothing other than maybe help pass the time while completely blinded by the affliction of obtaining a trinket from some dealer. In reality is just keeps us on edge and stress/cortisol/adrenaline levels pumping.

The entitled attitude of I “deserve” this because I’ve purchased [been ripped off] on 3-4 other cars developing a “relationship” with a dealer who may or may not be conscientious and grant me an allocation at MSRP is in our own heads. Sure it happens but if that’s the expectation one sets up for oneself then they are too attached to the unreality they dreamed up in their heads, have very little capacity for self reflection, and just need to come up for air.

So in the meantime if one isn’t willing to sack up and pay the ADM for the car now like others are doing this early on, you likely aren’t getting one. So you might as well do something else to pass the time and maybe maintain your sanity a bit…come up for air. Look around. Live your life. With time and commitment it will come to you. But no one but Porsche and the Dealers have control over this process. That’s what I get out of Mootys post. None of this effing matters. That’s why it’s relevant. Go ride a bike, build a sand castle, collect cool old cars you couldn’t afford at the time…do something to entertain yourself other than get stuck in the blind desire/affectation/“win the prize” get an allocation game. Oh and the bottom students at Harvard or MIT will have more doors opened for them than the top students at whats-a-matter-U so dong swinging or not that’s reality. And average incomes of those individuals are also statistically significantly higher throughout life than others…it is what it is, my firm hires for it. Self reflection matters.

cadster

It’s not necessarily the ADM dollars that bother me, it’s the resulting friction. It’s just so damn hard to buy a new Porsche GT car. I like spec’ing and buying new cars. So far, currently in my modest collection, I have purchased a new Performante, a new 812, and a new 765LT. I have a new STO on order also. It was comparatively easy to buy those cars. I submitted a deposit, spec’d my car, waited forever for the car to arrive, and then paid the price clearly marked on the window. Meanwhile, my local Porsche dealer laughed me off and said “I will put you on the list, but I can’t make any guarantees. I would be happy to service the car if you are able to find one through another source.” I suppose I can cold call the Porsche dealer list, but who the hell has time for that. Perhaps, someday, I will find the perfect Porsche spec preowned and pull the trigger on that. What I really want is the eventual 992 GT3RS, and a couple bucks over MSRP is not the core issue, it’s finding a dealer to sell me one.

Edit: by the way, it’s ‘Merica. I’m a capitalist. I am not grumbling about businesses maximizing profits, instead, I am complaining about how much harder it is to buy a Porsche than any other car.

Waddi

Judging by your collection of cars, if you really want a 992 GT3RS, you will be able to get one. Sure you will very likely have to pay an ADM, probably a sizable one, but if you really want it, that won’t matter.

I feel more for the guys with more limited budgets who dream of GT3 / RS. For them, it would likely be the only special car they own, but they are in serious danger of being priced out of the market.

DucatiV4S

clearly you are somewhat upset by this thread. It has be my observation that no one here has said there were entitled to MSRP without an ADM; Yet there had in fact been a discussion about the fact that greed exists. No one is expecting anything. The simple matter that ADM are allowed is a moot point now. The existence of non-ADM charging dealers has been well established. Whether or not some will “sack up” to pay ian ADM is not germane to the discussion. Nor is the origin of their educational degrees. And yes; people are entitled to feel bitter at the fact that there are ADM’s and to also feel That It’s not good business practice. Of course there are those who will pay anything extra to obtain the latest and greatest and that unfortunately emboldens all kindred unethical dealers to add it on. It’s free money after all. So go “sack up” if you will, but don’t pass judgement on those who don’t like the concept. It’s not warranted. Enjoy a bit of self reflection as you come up for air.