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Old 04-29-2023, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
As others have pointed out here, your MATH doesnt add up.
In fact, it's terribly POOR.

And given all of the "hits" you took on your trade-ins just to secure your GT3 Touring, the ADM that you paid is most likely higher than what I paid for my $210,000 Touring.
And I didnt have to fly anywhere, or transport my trade-ins anywhere, spend hours on the road, in the air, or paying for hotels and other related expenses or suck up to a stealership with BBQ.
Whatever makes you feel better about paying your ADM man.
Old 04-29-2023, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
He likes to think that he's "special".
He isnt special nor is his stealership.
I'm a good local customer and treat well by my dealer, simple as that. You calling my dealer a stealership makes you sound very ignorant. The more you say that the more you sound like a hater, go give it up already.
Old 04-29-2023, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
I'm a good local customer and treat well by my dealer, simple as that. You calling my dealer a stealership makes you sound very ignorant. The more you say that the more you sound like a hater, go give it up already.
You're the guy that literally calls every other dealership a stealership.
Try looking in the mirror Marty.
You're terribly tone-deaf.



Old 04-29-2023, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Wow, Porsche building and selling more cars than the previous year? SHOCKING!!!
And yet, GT car production is essentially flat.
Nice try Marty!


Old 04-29-2023, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
And yet, GT car production is essentially flat.
Nice try Marty!

Can't you tone down the acrimony please? You aren't in the pit anymore.

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Old 04-29-2023, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
And yet, GT car production is essentially flat.
Nice try Marty!

Oh just like they weren't going to build more 2024 GT3s, huh? Opps, guess Porsche wants to sell more pricey high-margin cars. Why? Because profit!
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Old 04-29-2023, 07:08 PM
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Why so much bitter hostility on this thread?

USC is doing what works for him. Who cares if he calls dealerships stealerships? It’s not like he’s attacking someone’s mama

Diablo paid $40k ADM because it’s his money, wanted the car, and had no other way. Good for him.

you guys both drive amazing tourings you got to spec yourselves.

whether it’s lower than market trades, direct ADMs, long term dealer relations, buying BBQ, etc… we all do what we can to get these cars.
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Old 04-29-2023, 07:11 PM
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I will report that where ADMs are demanded, I have seen some decline in price point. There is some significant regional variation like a Midwest dealer who was charging $30k on GT3s routinely vs here in TX at $75k- $100k

GT3 = closing in on $50k
GT3RS= low end of $100k

GT4= $15k
GT4RS=$60k
GTS=$0 to $15k
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Old 04-29-2023, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Oh just like they weren't going to build more 2024 GT3s, huh? Opps, guess Porsche wants to sell more pricey high-margin cars. Why? Because profit!
Makes sense. I'm sure there are others on here who know a lot more than I do about margins of different Porsche models, but if Porsche wants to reach its recent stated goal of 20%+ profit margins, then it will need to sell a sufficient number of 911s. I'd assume GT3s are pretty profitable for them, despite the significant costs in producing them, but probably not profitable like a base Carrera that is optioned up the ***.

So, coupling Porsche continuing to make GT3s, along with a steady resale supply that I think will grow as we get later into the year (unless sellers get religion), and then add in worsening economic conditions, I'd bet pricing, both for ADMs and on the resale side, continues to weaken. But, in any event, it doesn't matter because I'm not going to be able to ever buy a 992 generation or any generation GT3... :-(
Old 04-29-2023, 11:12 PM
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Would be interesting to have a poll of who is the most annoying. Anyone?
Old 04-30-2023, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mnawa
Porsche Rocklin called to offer me a GT3T on their lot for an exclusive price of $350k. GT silver and no buckets.
"Exclusive price"- was that really the terminology they used? omg
Old 04-30-2023, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bhaha Porsche
This thread should be focused on reporting ADMs we see from dealers so all of us are as informed as possible.

If it's of any use to others here - I recently paid 50k ADM for my GT3 (last MY23 prod before MY24 price). This is the best I could get with a light relationship (4th Porsche in 2 years - no Porsche prior to that - most of the cars I bought are from the same dealer).

Do I feel like I got a good deal? I called every dealer in my area and a few others across the country. The next best I was offered was 60k. I could also have walked away and ruminate on rennlist.

I want to make sure it wasn't overrev and want to configure every detail to my taste.
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Not sure everyone knows this but for manual cars, you can ask dealer to provide you with the overrev report from the car's computer. It records the overrev ranges. There are other threads on RL that explain those ranges.
Oh and btw- dealer can't Certify a GT3 without reviewing the overrev report and if in range 4 and above (I think that was the range), it is uncertifiable.
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Old 04-30-2023, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Shipping is $1,400 to and from the Houston. The non-GT cars are shipped to me at no cost, I used to get 6% off MSRP on those crs with no shipping cost but since 2021 the Macans and Taycans that I bought were MSRP with free shipping. I only fly down to Houston when a GT car arrives, I don't fly down for the non-GT cars. I fly in in the evening and fly out the next day in the evening. I'm a big relationship guy in my industry and I enjoy face-to-face interactions. My dealer treats me like a good local customers so the least I can do is fly down and thank them in person for my GT cars.
What really happens with this BBQ situation? Now I'm curious. Does a catering truck (or food truck) show up to the dealership (or stealership) and park on-site? And the techs/sales folk/finance wander outside and get their big plates of BBQ? Are there drinks/refreshments? Or is the BBQ brought inside and placed on a large white plastic fold-out table? Like a plastic spoons/forks situation? And what about safety ? Are the techs taking their BBQ plates out into the service bay where BBQ can be accidentally dropped into the flat six engines?

And those techs can be messy, I don't think I have to remind you. Those guys/gals don't often wash their hands. They could be getting their BBQ diabetic paws all over the Exclusive Manufaktur interiors you guys have in your Tourings. And if they get that BBQ on your Race-tex / Alcantara, I can tell you WHO ISN'T gonna be a happy camper. (Especially if you paid some hysterical ADM)

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Old 04-30-2023, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WenigerAberBeser
Why so much bitter hostility on this thread?

whether it’s lower than market trades, direct ADMs, long term dealer relations, buying BBQ, etc… we all do what we can to get these cars.
I've been questioning the same thing on here now for a while. You'd think it was the 1978 Ford Pinto forum where people lost loved ones.
Old 04-30-2023, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by chance6
I've been questioning the same thing on here now for a while. You'd think it was the 1978 Ford Pinto forum where people lost loved ones.
Anonymity and ego make for a bad combination.

You should go check out the Hermes message boards sometime. If you think there's dick wagging with GT cars, you ain't seen nothing yet until you start throwing around Birkin invites.
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