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Old 07-18-2023, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
I am in no way looking for an allocation but Porsche South Bay texted me yesterday asking if I’m interested in a touring allocation for 100k over.

didn’t think Porsche was still making normal gt3’s anymore so there’s that…

the fact they’re texting me about it must mean no one is interested remotely close to the ask
100k over for GT3 after the MY24 price increase seems high.

Dealers have been saying for a while that GT3 allocations are done but more keep coming.
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Old 07-18-2023, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bhaha Porsche
100k over for GT3 after the MY24 price increase seems high.

Dealers have been saying for a while that GT3 allocations are done but more keep coming.
And the same will happen with the GT3RS, Porsche will keep building them. And why shouldn't they, I bet the margins are HUGE on the car.
Old 07-19-2023, 04:01 PM
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Doesnt look like much has changed in the past month.

The economy is nowhere near Recession as GDP for Q2 looks to be around 2.3% according to the Atlanta Fed and the Unemployment Rate is at 3.6%
Challenger Gray, Jolts, and Unemployment Claims data still continue to point to an economy that is nowhere near Recession and the stock market hasnt collapsed either.
In fact, the Nasdaq just finished the first-half of this year with the strongest first half in 40 years (+32%)
Currently +38% year to date.

ADM's also appear to be equally robust.

Look no further than the following used 992 GT3 Touring's from Porsche of North Houston with massive ADM's.
The Ruby Star Neo Touring has an MSRP of $194,400.




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Old 07-19-2023, 04:03 PM
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wow only $105K over!!!
Old 07-19-2023, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dogshyne
wow only $105K over!!!
It appears the Ruby model has already been sold. The Gentian blue (on the other hand) has been dropping in price on a bi-weekly basis.
Old 07-19-2023, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude


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Typical STEALERSHIP behavior!

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Old 07-19-2023, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
I am in no way looking for an allocation but Porsche South Bay texted me yesterday asking if I’m interested in a touring allocation for 100k over.

didn’t think Porsche was still making normal gt3’s anymore so there’s that…

the fact they’re texting me about it must mean no one is interested remotely close to the ask
Maybe the GT3 market comes back to earth, maybe it never comes back to earth. I'm good either way tbh. It's my dream to have the GT3 as a canyon/track car, but I already have some fun Canyon/Track cars so life is good either way
Old 07-19-2023, 05:08 PM
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Speaking as someone who got a 992 GT3 at MSRP for $206k, I don't think the car is worth more than MSRP, and even MSRP is pushing it. Nice car, but it's not as though it's expensive to design and build these things, hence very large profit margins. Maybe I'll change my mind after I drive it.
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Old 07-19-2023, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Speaking as someone who got a 992 GT3 at MSRP for $206k, I don't think the car is worth more than MSRP, and even MSRP is pushing it. Nice car, but it's not as though it's expensive to design and build these things, hence very large profit margins. Maybe I'll change my mind after I drive it.
I think the max that I would pay for a Touring would be low $200s and for a nice PTS spec maybe up to mid $200s after having driven mine for 9 months. If not having a great time tracking my GT4s, I would have had a hard time paying over $200k+ for a GT4RS but I had a BIG want for that car so having gotten my PTS one at $210k was fine by me.
Old 07-19-2023, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Doesnt look like much has changed in the past month.

The economy is nowhere near Recession as GDP for Q2 looks to be around 2.3% according to the Atlanta Fed and the Unemployment Rate is at 3.6%
Challenger Gray, Jolts, and Unemployment Claims data still continue to point to an economy that is nowhere near Recession and the stock market hasnt collapsed either.
In fact, the Nasdaq just finished the first-half of this year with the strongest first half in 40 years (+32%)
Currently +38% year to date.

ADM's also appear to be equally robust.

Look no further than the following used 992 GT3 Touring's from Porsche of North Houston with massive ADM's.
The Ruby Star Neo Touring has an MSRP of $194,400.

No one says or wants the economy to collapse, things just need to cool down and back to normal (pre-Covid). It's not healthy to have high inflation, especially to the people that are worse off than those of us on RL. Think about those who have it worse off than us. I'm hoping that the Fed engineers a soft landing but they tend to over do it on both sides and the result is that they break something along the way. I also want the real estate market to calm down so that my buyers have a better chance of purchasing their homes easier than how bad it is right now in Orange County.
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Old 07-19-2023, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbravo23
Welcome back!

Typical STEALERSHIP behavior!
The best we can hope for from dealerships is that they reward their repeat, good customers with GT allocations at MSRP.

Everything else is fair game.
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Old 07-19-2023, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
The best we can hope for from dealerships is that they reward their repeat, good customers with GT allocations at MSRP.

Everything else is fair game.
But who in reality actually sells GT cars at MSRP?
That's my biggest question.

Didnt the "good" guy dealer Porsche of North Houston have a new 3RS for sale at $200,000 over?

What happened to all of their "valued" long-term repeat clients?
Was this car not offered to them?

Originally Posted by Shayan30
Don’t shoot the messenger….GT3 RS with delivery miles…$200k+ ADM @ North Houston.

https://twitter.com/speedsportlife/s...666601984?s=46




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Old 07-19-2023, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by niji84
Maybe the GT3 market comes back to earth, maybe it never comes back to earth. I'm good either way tbh. It's my dream to have the GT3 as a canyon/track car, but I already have some fun Canyon/Track cars so life is good either way
Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
But who in reality actually sells GT cars at MSRP?
That's my biggest question.

Didnt the "good" guy dealer Porsche of North Houston have a new 3RS for sale at $200,000 over?

What happened to all of their "valued" long-term repeat clients?
Was this car not offered to them?



IMO, ok to sell the first 1 or 2 allocations at market price and then take care of your good customers at MSRP. Each dealer will do it differently and have to live with the choices they make. Some sell the first few at MSRP and then later allocations at market, also OK
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Old 07-19-2023, 06:27 PM
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This will be an interesting auction to watch.
Voodoo Blue Touring and No Reserve!
$236,890 msrp.

No Reserve: Voodoo Blue 2023 Porsche 911 GT3 Touring 6-Speed for sale on BaT Auctions - ending July 25 (Lot #114,528) | Bring a Trailer


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Old 07-19-2023, 06:28 PM
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You guys change the criteria of what's ok and what is considered "stealership" lol

Again - all dealerships are in it for the money. The only reason they will give someone a MSRP allocation on GT cars is because they are making the money one way or another.
There is no nice guy dealership. Some will offer lower ADM's than others based on markets but the bigger picture remains the same.
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