usctrojanGT3

Oh I know there will be one-off auctions that will result in big prices. I'm sure if I put my PTS Touring on BAT I'd get over $300k no problem.

pitt911

that is exactly my point
they will say , we believe that 50 K is still the going rate and we talked to other dealers and they are demanding more ,
what will he say: according to RL ADM should be 25 k
I personally hate uncertainty, I would rather agree to a number and commit to it

usctrojanGT3

I guess BAT auction results can be used as an example but there's really no downside for him since he can walk away from the car if the price is too high for him.

Licensed2bill

Yup, that's pretty much correct. If I don't agree with their assessment of ADM at the time I can walk and they will just put it on the floor to sell to the next guy.

Manifold

Sounds reasonable, as long as you have it all in writing and spelled out very clearly.

lawrence1

here's a nice money green touring for less of an ADM than what you typically find on BAT.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/7561424046.html

usctrojanGT3

That's my car's twin but with a dash wart.

Diablo Dude

Your dealer is not asking you for a check for the ADM of $50,000 when you submit your build into the system?
Most dealers do.

welikethetrack

Just call around to like 20 places a few days before the car comes in and ask them what the best they can do is. Find 2 or 3 that got some on the ground or gave you best price, haggle with them. Cram them down to say 10k over, then ship the offer to the dealer you ordered from. I'd be shocked if sticker doesn't happen by April 1, with how fast things are degrading. Can't imagine the amount of cheap@sses that are going to sell 991/992 gt cars once the whole "prices don't go down" thing disappears.

They may say "well you got to order this one custom", then say its market rate. Give me it or I walk and then just go get the other one if they won't do it or if the delta is not worth it to you.

Dr Chill

A few days ago, was offered very late buildable non PTS GT3T allocation for 100k ADM. Politely declined.

Diablo Dude

It's funny to see people repeatedly post on this thread about being "patient" and how ADM's will come down, yet brag about ordering 3 or 4 cars this year at MSRP and dont think they are part of the ADM "issue". As though their purchases have nothing to do with the ADM's being charged on others out of the same dealership.
Talk about being "tone-deaf".

Diablo Dude

I know that this is the "internet" but it's sad to see people totally uninformed and being critical of others that actually know what is going on with 992.1 production and allocation.

Ten days ago, I essentially posted that there were no more allocation slots available and only V200 status would be honored. The Regional Mgr in my area was telling his dealers to erase any V70 request. And yet a poster named "WCGhost" jumped all over me and accused me of intentionally lying as can be seen by his absurd post above with erroneous claims.

Perhaps he should re-read the above post by Aviaros21 from today for a reality check.
Like I said in my post from 11/19 . . . "See you in the Fall of 2024" for 992.2 allocation slots.
Some people can handle the truth. Others clearly cannot.

Manifold

Stopped by my Porsche dealer today and talked with GM and SA. They said prices on the used cars are trending down, and they're being very cautious about buying higher-end used cars (they've taken pretty big losses on some of them).

Chris C.

You guys have wayyy too much time - idle hands and all that.

I follow BAT cause I think it’s fun

991.2 are now $10-20K over MSRP dep on miles and build. One sold at MSRP.

991.2 Gt3RSs appear to be in similar range, but again some have miles, most RNM. Many are now hitting market as people trade up.

992.1 Wingers - selling around $60-75K (one nice build $86K over)

992.1 Tourings - $75 - $100K over for moderate build cars ($110 over for Albert car)

Draw your own conclusions. Mine: There is a curve here but until 992.2 starts rolling in earnest don’t expect much change in 992.1 cars. Special build always command more.

The sky isn’t falling. It’s also winter in a lot of places and people are maybe less focused on their obsessive selfish car habits and maybe buying gifts for others :-)

Go drive something fun for Godsake. Take meds, get help, meditate. Get out more. Pray for relief. Geez this is like Twitter now.

usctrojanGT3

He probably won't get the car until the 2nd half of 2023 given how long cars are getting delayed, mine took 11 months to get from when I got the allocation, so I'm confident the market price will be materially below $50k over by then. There's no real downside here, I say go for it.