av12345

i think plenty are still paying ADMs on S / GTS variants. You should probably ask in regular 992 forum though.

shrimp money

People are still paying ADM on S and GTS variants, but seems to be more so in large, metro markets.

usctrojanGT3

Yeah, no more free money for floor plan interest rates....I hope those vampires start feeling the pain as their carrying costs rise.

Freddie Two Bs

Not sure they do. $10k buys you one year of financing on a $200k sticker at 5% a year, right? I don't think that's gonna make anyone go "OMG I need to dump this car now, let me list it at MSRP instead of 100k ADM".

hitmonlee

Not sure if this has been discussed earlier (too many posts!), but do other people also feel CA dealers in general have higher markups? I've been following (asking) prices for the past few weeks and often see some out of state dealers asking a lower price for a similarly-spec'ed car with similar MSRPs (obviously it's almost impossible to find two Porsches with the exact same spec), compared to a CA dealer, to a point where sometimes it's still cheaper to buy a car from out of state and have it shipped to CA.

Just wondering if other people feel the same way or maybe they were just some edge cases.

rodsky

Hard to say but 2-3 years ago, you could certainly get 991.2's at MSRP or less on the lightly owned very low miles market. Obviously not ordered or new - for the average Joe Shmo. Going forward, If things get bad - maybe - but likely the scarcity and demand will keep them propped up but not to March 2022 prices. its not far fetched and i think it will likely get there - to see a 1 year old 992 GT3 selling for MSRP next year. Obviously this is pure speculation and my crazy opinion - before all the keyboard warriors attack me.

usctrojanGT3

I think MSRP for a used 992 GT3 will be possible next year.

av12345

for a wing I think it’s very likely - you think for a touring as well?

Ascend

I wouldnt pay over msrp for post 991 gt3s...

lawrence1

that’s not how it works with flooring lines. Most of these non franchised dealers have interest only for 30-60 or 90 days and then they need to make curtailment payments on the principal and remaining interest to essentially pay the entire balance(including principal) over a period of a few months (3-6 months is common). You don’t just sit on the inventory and pay interest only indefinitely.

also, flooring finance companies routinely evaluate your inventory to make sure you aren’t upside down compared to what it’s worth and can demand that you pay down the outstanding balance on a short notice to bring in line with what was contractually agreed to. There will be pain in the car biz going into next year.

Jbravo23

🤣🤣🤣

rodsky

He was right in April 2020 - there were no GT3's new (the 992 was a year off), there were no 2020 TTS's. The stock market was in free fall. So it wasn't hilarious at the time. Then the market took off and supply chains were disrupted and you couldnt do anything except stay home and drive - so cars took off. Now things are different. Fedex stock collapsed - people arent staying home and buying **** as much they are shifting $$ to vacations. Market is way down and rates are way up. I think prices will come down and people trying to buy GT3's at $280 and sell at $310 - those days are coming to an end.

ipse dixit

If he keeps saying it, one of these years he's going to be right.

So give him credit for persistence, if not consistency.

rodsky

For some reason people are obsessed with Tourings. Not sure I completely understand that dynamic. And manuals are more "popular" in the US. So a manual 992 Touring will hold a little better than a winged PDK. Which is OK by me. I have a big birthday next year and I am trying to decide what to add for my mid life crisis. I just don't like the attention of F's, L's etc, and lack of "practicality". So contemplating a 992 GT3 which I would use more often anyways. I would buy a winged one and PDK. My Turbo is staying as its pretty tricked out and flies under the radar.

av12345

I’m certainly one of those people purely because I want to fly under the radar so I personally get the appeal - I love Fs and Ls etc but it doesn’t quite fit my personality. The touring meets that criteria perfectly - now if only P would add some back seats…