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Old 07-28-2022 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick787
This is merely CYA corporate marketing 101.

GM did the same with the C8 Vette.

It's basically a way for Ford (or GM) to publicly put on a good face with their customers -- i.e., "hey, look, everyone, we are not at fault for all these ridiculous markups, it's those damn dealers ... blah blah blah" -- when in reality, the marques themselves could care less because their customers are the dealers and dealer principals, not the ultimate consumers (i.e., you and me).

And what's Ford (or GM) really going to do? Not sell to dealers? When all (or 99%) of them are marking up the most desired cars and trucks? What would that accomplish? Nothing except essentially biting themselves in the **** and cut into their own corporate profits.

And, seriously, who does one think leaked this letter to the press? The dealers? Uh, probably not. Ford? Wouldn't be the first time.

TL;DR marketing CYA, won't make a difference

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Old 07-28-2022 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
This is merely CYA corporate marketing 101.

GM did the same with the C8 Vette.

It's basically a way for Ford (or GM) to publicly put on a good face with their customers -- i.e., "hey, look, everyone, we are not at fault for all these ridiculous markups, it's those damn dealers ... blah blah blah" -- when in reality, the marques themselves could care less because their customers are the dealers and dealer principals, not the ultimate consumers (i.e., you and me).

And what's Ford (or GM) really going to do? Not sell to dealers? When all (or 99%) of them are marking up the most desired cars and trucks? What would that accomplish? Nothing except essentially biting themselves in the **** and cut into their own corporate profits.

And, seriously, who does one think leaked this letter to the press? The dealers? Uh, probably not. Ford? Wouldn't be the first time.

TL;DR marketing CYA, won't make a difference

agree for sure it’s spin, the only success was with the Ford GT had to keep for 2 years or sale back to the dealer.
Old 07-28-2022 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick787
will see what .75% does …….
nothing. A 60 month loan on 330k at 4% is 34K interest. At 5% it’s 43k. If $9k OVER 5 years is something you would even notice missing, you have zero ****ing business buying a 330k car.
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Old 07-28-2022 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
nothing. A 60 month loan on 330k at 4% is 34K interest. At 5% it’s 43k. If $9k OVER 5 years is something you would even notice missing, you have zero ****ing business buying a 330k car.
‘yup agree, but we know many do 😎
Old 07-29-2022 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
nothing. A 60 month loan on 330k at 4% is 34K interest. At 5% it’s 43k. If $9k OVER 5 years is something you would even notice missing, you have zero ****ing business buying a 330k car.
It’s literally still cheaper than my wife going to Costco.
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Old 07-29-2022 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
It’s literally still cheaper than my wife going to Costco.
That just means you have to get your wife a smaller car ...
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Old 07-29-2022 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
That just means you have to get your wife a smaller car ...
Wife can Uber.
Old 07-29-2022 | 08:03 AM
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costco>porsche
Old 07-29-2022 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by WenigerAberBeser
still 6 days left and already $75k over
RNM at 280k
Old 07-30-2022 | 01:11 PM
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Do you guys think theres some shill bidding going on at these auction places? Sometimes for a car worth 300k or so with reserve at 280k I assume. I see a bid to 270k or so with so many days left. No bidder with common sense would do that.
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Old 07-30-2022 | 01:25 PM
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Happens all the time. Can’t confirm but sometimes I think the same online auction has shillings in place.
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Old 07-30-2022 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Azzurri GT3
At one point they wwere going for over 300k.

Now most listings for a a loaded 2021 with low miles like mine has, with a color that has resale value go for 250-260k right now.
Here's a quick market update. A new 2022 China Blue G63 $205k MSRP sat in the Mercedes Marin showroom this last week. I stopped in yesterday and was told all new G63's come with $50k ADM's but offered $40k. It sold this morning but a black G63 is available with $35k ADM.
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Old 07-30-2022 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JAB12
Happens all the time. Can’t confirm but sometimes I think the same online auction has shillings in place.
Definitely very suspicious. For example, say someone wants to sell 911R at 500k and set reserve at 480k for so. No one in their right mind will bid 470k like 7 days before auction ends. I dont like buying cars from auction because you cant (or very hard) to inspect the car.
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Old 07-30-2022 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by daddyscar
Here's a quick market update. A new 2022 China Blue G63 $205k MSRP sat in the Mercedes Marin showroom this last week. I stopped in yesterday and was told all new G63's come with $50k ADM's but offered $40k. It sold this morning but a black G63 is available with $35k ADM.
Yea, dealer offered me 200k cash no trade in, I'm sure if I wanted to trade it in it would have been more too.

I paid 190k for mine
Old 07-31-2022 | 03:01 AM
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Lot's of G63 talk. Rumor has it - these guys paid through the roof for tons of G63 inventory at the top of the market. Would like to hear the real story from an insider.

https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/sear...&st=Price+desc
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