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Old 01-14-2022, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JAB12
This would be the first one that sold on this auction site. The previous Four went RNM.
Agree. A N=1 does not make this a trend just yet. And are there still some people who are impatient and naive? Sure!
But is this going to be the norm? I doubt it.
Old 01-14-2022, 08:32 PM
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Seller lifted the reserve at $250K and posted it. That was a smart move.
Old 01-14-2022, 08:44 PM
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Looks like an indie dealer bought it for flipping. Also kind of interesting that it was a 2 horse race from about 235k.
Old 01-14-2022, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by G.Irish
Looks like an indie dealer bought it for flipping. Also kind of interesting that it was a 2 horse race from about 235k.
An indie dealer is going to try to flip it for over $100k? They better have a buyer ready to go because otherwise they'll be sitting on the car for a while.
Old 01-15-2022, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
An indie dealer is going to try to flip it for over $100k? They better have a buyer ready to go because otherwise they'll be sitting on the car for a while.
All the flippers are listing cars at $300k or more so maybe this dealer figured they could score $20k with this flip.

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Old 01-15-2022, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ssiminou
This car sold for $100k over today with auction fees….

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...che-992-gt3-2/
So it‘s $280k PLUS auction fee PLUS tax? Wow!
Old 01-15-2022, 03:44 AM
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Crazy got 100k over and 185k is by no means a loaded car.

curious to know how the 210-225k cars will do.
Old 01-15-2022, 11:00 AM
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Are these flippers all businesses or dealers. Sales tax will eat into half the profit? I guess there is montana
Old 01-15-2022, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by coss1600
Are these flippers all businesses or dealers. Sales tax will eat into half the profit? I guess there is montana
If they are a licensed dealer they don't have to pay sales tax.
Old 01-18-2022, 03:29 PM
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The 10 year yield is over 1.85% which is a 2 year high.
Retail sales were down 1.9% last month and Consumer Confidence is collapsing.
The "bubble" is popping.
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Old 01-18-2022, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
The 10 year yield is over 1.85% which is a 2 year high.
Retail sales were down 1.9% last month and Consumer Confidence is collapsing.
The "bubble" is popping.
LOL
Old 01-18-2022, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
The 10 year yield is over 1.85% which is a 2 year high.
Retail sales were down 1.9% last month and Consumer Confidence is collapsing.
The "bubble" is popping.
You are not wrong...3-6 months from now we could be looking at a different picture.
Just don't stare at Kamala's neck for too long. lmao
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Old 01-20-2022, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chance6
You are not wrong...3-6 months from now we could be looking at a different picture.
Just don't stare at Kamala's neck for too long. lmao
Like I said, the bubble is popping.
SPX has lost nearly 300 points in just 5 days.
No one wants to be around for rate hikes or a War.

Old 01-20-2022, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Like I said, the bubble is popping.
SPX has lost nearly 300 points in just 5 days.
No one wants to be around for rate hikes or a War.
meh. The rate hikes under discussion are vastly too small to materially impact the GT car income bracket, and Ukraine getting annexed won’t materially effect either the US or Chinese economies. A lot of short term volatility no question. Take some profits, hedge some positions, sure. A 2008 style unwinding is neither likely nor desirable. The bubble popping makes everybody poorer. A little ADM is better than watching your investments, retirement and house all collapse in value. Assuming you get to keep your job. 2008 really hurt a lot of people.

None of this changes the fundamentals of Porsche making 1 GT car for every 10+ people who want one. 1 car for 5 customers is still the land of ADM and allocation games.
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Old 01-20-2022, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
meh. The rate hikes under discussion are vastly too small to materially impact the GT car income bracket, and Ukraine getting annexed won’t materially effect either the US or Chinese economies. A lot of short term volatility no question. Take some profits, hedge some positions, sure. A 2008 style unwinding is neither likely nor desirable. The bubble popping makes everybody poorer. A little ADM is better than watching your investments, retirement and house all collapse in value. Assuming you get to keep your job. 2008 really hurt a lot of people.

None of this changes the fundamentals of Porsche making 1 GT car for every 10+ people who want one. 1 car for 5 customers is still the land of ADM and allocation games.
Agreed. Volatility is coming. What precisely is meant by a bubble "popping" ? What's in the "bubble" ? It's not difficult to find a few variables that support an incoming correction, but I don't think that auto translates to GT car buyers to stop buying GT cars and the excessive lists at dealerships to disappear or drastically shrink
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