Consolidated 991RS thread
12-12-2014, 03:50 PM
#2837
Three Wheelin'
Nope Porsche wouldn't be caught dead giving these pics away....these are same cars that were caught at gas station a while back. Good ole mule reg numbers 8825, 8826, 8827 are assigned cold weather testing through Feb.
12-12-2014, 03:55 PM
#2838
Three Wheelin'
I agree completely and believe most of the 1-2 seconds per lap difference between the GT3 and GT3RS on US length Tracks listed by www.fastestlaps.com
lies in the far more effective Wing on the RS, and not the small weight saving.
lies in the far more effective Wing on the RS, and not the small weight saving.
12-12-2014, 04:44 PM
#2840
- if thats carbon fibre i'll have my money back.The one with different "gloss" that I am referring to; does not have taped roof and lid and the rear bumper is fully undisguised.
I think we are in for extensive carbon fiber - at least as options. Given that there may not be a GT2 RS; then it makes sense to make GT3 RS lighter. It also justifies the rumored higher delta price with 991 GT3 vs 997.1 and 997.2 delta prices.
Kevin.
12-12-2014, 04:46 PM
#2841
Nordschleife Master
12-12-2014, 04:57 PM
#2842
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11412118...ng-in-the-snow
"Porsche is putting the finishing touches on the 911 GT3 RS as our spies have caught a handful of prototypes undergoing testing in Northern Europe. Based on the 911 GT3, the RS variant has a familiar design but is distinguished by a muscular hood, ventilated front fenders and a double bubble roof. The car also has a new rear bumper, a revised engine cover and a sporty rear wing. Last but not least, we can see lightweight wheels and rear fenders from the 911 Turbo. Porsche has been coy on specifications but the model is expected to use a 3.8-liter six-cylinder engine that develops at least 515 PS (378 kW). It will likely be connected to a specially-tuned PDK transmission which will enable the model to accelerate from 0-100 km/h in less than 3.5 seconds. The 911 GT3 RS is expected to debut at the 2015 Geneva Motor Show, so we should learn more in the coming months."
"Porsche is putting the finishing touches on the 911 GT3 RS as our spies have caught a handful of prototypes undergoing testing in Northern Europe. Based on the 911 GT3, the RS variant has a familiar design but is distinguished by a muscular hood, ventilated front fenders and a double bubble roof. The car also has a new rear bumper, a revised engine cover and a sporty rear wing. Last but not least, we can see lightweight wheels and rear fenders from the 911 Turbo. Porsche has been coy on specifications but the model is expected to use a 3.8-liter six-cylinder engine that develops at least 515 PS (378 kW). It will likely be connected to a specially-tuned PDK transmission which will enable the model to accelerate from 0-100 km/h in less than 3.5 seconds. The 911 GT3 RS is expected to debut at the 2015 Geneva Motor Show, so we should learn more in the coming months."
The engine capacity is an interesting debate. Note Porsche did not deviate on engine capacity on 997.1 and 997.2 between 3 and 3RS (except for the limited production 4.0.) I cannot see why they would deviate here either.
Further, an argument presented by someone here that 3RS parts were utilized to redo the faulty 3 engines supports the argument that engine capacity of the two cars are the same.
On the other hand, if the engine is to produce >500HP; such a large difference between 3 and 3RS in HP cannot be perhaps sustained using the same 3.8L engine. This controversy, I am afraid, won't be resolved until the car is officially revealed. I do hope they put the 4.0 in there...
Kevin.
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12-12-2014, 07:22 PM
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Cars are different; correct. They are cars from different stages of development. Notice the one with "taped up" roof and lid has also the rear bumper different; where the side bottom air vent is located, it still has a plastic over to hide how the apron comes down. This is not the car that I am referring to.
The one with different "gloss" that I am referring to; does not have taped roof and lid and the rear bumper is fully undisguised.
I think we are in for extensive carbon fiber - at least as options. Given that there may not be a GT2 RS; then it makes sense to make GT3 RS lighter. It also justifies the rumored higher delta price with 991 GT3 vs 997.1 and 997.2 delta prices.
Kevin.
The one with different "gloss" that I am referring to; does not have taped roof and lid and the rear bumper is fully undisguised.
I think we are in for extensive carbon fiber - at least as options. Given that there may not be a GT2 RS; then it makes sense to make GT3 RS lighter. It also justifies the rumored higher delta price with 991 GT3 vs 997.1 and 997.2 delta prices.
Kevin.
I have been given a 991 GT3 to drive around in and every time I leave my home, the rear bottoms out on the speed hump and its not that big - my RS never does that. Suspension or heavy **** or both?
12-12-2014, 08:01 PM
#2844
Rennlist Member
Ive never hear nor experienced the rear bottoming out anywhere. If you look at the rear is has a far greater exit angle than entry and based on the specs on the factory documentation is infact greater than the previous generation 3.8RS.
I have no idea what you are experiencing but suggest it may be something else rubbing. I can park the rear of my GT3 over a cement parking bar that over 6" tall without issue...very weird?
I have no idea what you are experiencing but suggest it may be something else rubbing. I can park the rear of my GT3 over a cement parking bar that over 6" tall without issue...very weird?
12-12-2014, 09:37 PM
#2845
Never heard of a GT3 bottoming out on suspension and certainly not due to weight (note that suspensions are rated for a car's weight - hard to bottom out unless you really slam it into the speed bump.) Mine never did.
These cars are not heavy by any stretch of imagination, not the 3 nor 3RS to bottom out due to weight. There is something else going on or it is truly rubbing due to car being so low; may be tips of the exhaust?
The 997 3 and 3 RS were about 40-50lb apart without use of carbon. With the use of carbon, I hope the target weight comes to 80-100lb less than the 3? Really hard to say.
Kevin.
12-12-2014, 11:25 PM
#2847
12-12-2014, 11:38 PM
#2848
Three Wheelin'
12-13-2014, 12:27 AM
#2849
Burning Brakes
so, in theory, a man only interested in the best lamp times (in the US) will spend 40-50-60k more over the GT3 for the RS just for 1-2 seconds per lap?
this would mean to me any top drivers like you would find the extra expense silly and just get a GT3 and add the wing like you did for MUCH less......?
or are there any reasons a driver of your calibur would opt for the 991 RS over the 991 GT3?
i know im not that good of a driver that i "need" the RS or even the bigger wing, but im sure as hell getting one anyways.....the RS that is
this would mean to me any top drivers like you would find the extra expense silly and just get a GT3 and add the wing like you did for MUCH less......?
or are there any reasons a driver of your calibur would opt for the 991 RS over the 991 GT3?
i know im not that good of a driver that i "need" the RS or even the bigger wing, but im sure as hell getting one anyways.....the RS that is
If the RS or GT2 is not similarly comfortable to travel in, I'm out. If the performance difference is only minuscule, I'm also out. The Crawford Wing
removes 2 of the very few gripes I have with the GT3 - The obstructed view out
the back window and the lack of downforce on the present wing. I'll be testing the new Wing on the track at Sebring for the first time this weekend. I loved the 991
GT3 during the 7000+ miles I've put on it, and I expect to love it even more now.
12-13-2014, 01:50 AM
#2850
Rennlist Member
Lane. That wing hook humongous! I think you have your Cessna mixed up with your track car LOL! I hope it delivers the goods mate as its killed all the stealth. If not you can always sleep up there to save on track side accommodation...:-)