welikethetrack

Jeez that's a criminal price. no troll at all....Did you feel bad selling it for that to someone?

I felt kinda bad when I sold my 991.2 gt3rs for 24k over sticker to a Porsche dealer almost 2 years ago who then flipped it for like 45k over sricker and I drove it for 3 years and 7,300 miles...

If I was selling straight to the private party....I would have felt real bad

welikethetrack

I am seeing things drop FAST across the board at the moment. Every porsche dealer has 5+ 911's in stock (hasn't happened in over 2 years), allocations fairly open for custom builds and 991 and 992 cars seem to be in free fall, lots of RNM...

I know diablo and some others mock the economy...but maybe this is a sign of things to come...not like 1 year away, but maybe sooner...

I personally thought 991 would level out and 992 would continue to drop....does not seem to be the case at all. 992 C2, T, turbo, maybe GTS....all sticker now for custom orders....pretty crazy how fast that changed.

mnawa

Should I still expect the $50k RS allocation info from you?

Manifold

Not my dealer. No new 911 or Cayman/Boxster in stock, 1 used 991, 1 used 997, and 1 used 964. Their cars are still selling quickly.

welikethetrack

No, I can get it but it's political, and I won't flip anything. I think I need to talk WAY less on this platform as far as low priced ADM's go, there are people actively not happy about discussing it. You need history with them buying GT cars, the good deals are done in the shadows at most dealers nationwide to people who they know are not flipping nor running their mouths on the good deal they got....so I need to

I would wait tbh. sticker wouldnt surprise me in the not so distant future, the car is so unusable, expensive and the current environment seems to be degrading quickly

BergGt3

awesome and amazing spec!

3-Pedals

How much did you pay for it? Was it touring?

Dangler69

Curious on what you paid too. My spec is similar, but with 13k miles

BostonDMD

No, for me was a business transaction, no feelings attached.
no different than selling real estate or other investments…..

rodsky

I dont know "ALL" the dealers - but I was at my dealer for an event on Saturday - a large one in So Cal. I ordered a 2024 Cayenne - gonna try one as a DD. They had 1 911 on the floor a GTS Cab. And a GT4RS for sale - that was it. The GT4RS sold while I was there. It was listed (and I'm fairly sure sold) for $269K. I asked my sales guy what 911's they had available / incoming - he said one. A Carrera T. Your experiences seem to be very different to mine. With the stock market in bull territory and some tech segments getting back to frothy (I'm in that world and i think there will be a bubble - at some point), I don't think there's a shortage of people with means by any stretch.

BergGt3

it was a wing car and listed for $210. I know they were offering a $2k discount thus $208k.

rk-d

Great car, great price, congrats.

Touring would probably be at least $20-30k more I think.

3-Pedals

Historically speaking, the lowest point of the 991 GT3 market was the 2020 summer. I believe that at that time manual winged GT3s were selling for 20k over and RS was at msrp or slightly below. It seems like we now breached that low point. I dont remember a low mile, CPO manual GT3 with buckets to be as close to msrp as some of these cars have been. I knew this point was coming, I just didnt assume it would arrive so quickly. The BAT/PcarMarket prices of GT3s of this year vs last year is a pretty steep delta. Tourings of 992s had the most drop of average $60,000. That’s a tough pill to swallow considering people paid $125k over for them last year only to sell them $20k over to a dealer now. The only upside in this situation is those people who bought these cars as investments thinking they can just flip them for more took a nice cold bath. Hope they learn a lesson and leave the brand alone for people who actually buy these cars to drive them properly.

The 600 mile car in BAT that went only $7k over is a pretty decent reality check. Market has spoken and this only means more price reduction. I dont think below Msrp by fall is unrealistic.

atlrvr

This is factually not true. Not even close. PTS manual GT3's were asking ~10k off MSRP in 4Q19. Porsche Colorado Springs had 4 at one point, and willing to negotiate. I know at least 1 PTS (Fashion Grey) winged manual car at Perimeter Porsche in Atlanta with 5k miles that sold more than $25k below MSRP at that same time. These aren't one offs. That was the market at that time.

That Guards Red car would have sold for roughly $165k then (and $215k last summer).

Over 3.5 years, the price variation is within what I assume most GT3 owners see their net worth fluctuate on a daily basis. No one likes to overpay, everyone likes a good deal, but unless anyone here is operating a dealership, I think most would agree that buying and driving a car should be a fun hobby and not a mentally draining chore worrying about economic what ifs.

3-Pedals

That wasnt my experience but I believe you.