The 991 GT3/RS Cars For Sale Thread...
#7936
Burning Brakes
Technically yes, but they have to approve it. In other words if they think the reserve is too high, they won't accept your car.
I sold my Shelby on their site last year......
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...elby-gt350-22/
I sold my Shelby on their site last year......
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...elby-gt350-22/
I felt kinda bad when I sold my 991.2 gt3rs for 24k over sticker to a Porsche dealer almost 2 years ago who then flipped it for like 45k over sricker and I drove it for 3 years and 7,300 miles...
If I was selling straight to the private party....I would have felt real bad
#7937
Burning Brakes
I never understand how people pay for merit partners listings. They listed a PTS 997 GT3RS with 13k miles for almost $500,000. Are they like the rolex of car dealers? I know I know, amazing treatment, etc etc.
Anyways, in planet earth, a 600 mile GT3 with buckets, fal, pccb, and all goodies went RNM at $7k over MSRP. Bottomless hole we are going in?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-24/
Anyways, in planet earth, a 600 mile GT3 with buckets, fal, pccb, and all goodies went RNM at $7k over MSRP. Bottomless hole we are going in?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-24/
I know diablo and some others mock the economy...but maybe this is a sign of things to come...not like 1 year away, but maybe sooner...
I personally thought 991 would level out and 992 would continue to drop....does not seem to be the case at all. 992 C2, T, turbo, maybe GTS....all sticker now for custom orders....pretty crazy how fast that changed.
#7938
I am seeing things drop FAST across the board at the moment. Every porsche dealer has 5+ 911's in stock (hasn't happened in over 2 years), allocations fairly open for custom builds and 991 and 992 cars seem to be in free fall, lots of RNM...
I know diablo and some others mock the economy...but maybe this is a sign of things to come...not like 1 year away, but maybe sooner...
I personally thought 991 would level out and 992 would continue to drop....does not seem to be the case at all. 992 C2, T, turbo, maybe GTS....all sticker now for custom orders....pretty crazy how fast that changed.
I know diablo and some others mock the economy...but maybe this is a sign of things to come...not like 1 year away, but maybe sooner...
I personally thought 991 would level out and 992 would continue to drop....does not seem to be the case at all. 992 C2, T, turbo, maybe GTS....all sticker now for custom orders....pretty crazy how fast that changed.
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I am seeing things drop FAST across the board at the moment. Every porsche dealer has 5+ 911's in stock (hasn't happened in over 2 years), allocations fairly open for custom builds and 991 and 992 cars seem to be in free fall, lots of RNM...
I know diablo and some others mock the economy...but maybe this is a sign of things to come...not like 1 year away, but maybe sooner...
I personally thought 991 would level out and 992 would continue to drop....does not seem to be the case at all. 992 C2, T, turbo, maybe GTS....all sticker now for custom orders....pretty crazy how fast that changed.
I know diablo and some others mock the economy...but maybe this is a sign of things to come...not like 1 year away, but maybe sooner...
I personally thought 991 would level out and 992 would continue to drop....does not seem to be the case at all. 992 C2, T, turbo, maybe GTS....all sticker now for custom orders....pretty crazy how fast that changed.
#7940
Burning Brakes
No, I can get it but it's political, and I won't flip anything. I think I need to talk WAY less on this platform as far as low priced ADM's go, there are people actively not happy about discussing it. You need history with them buying GT cars, the good deals are done in the shadows at most dealers nationwide to people who they know are not flipping nor running their mouths on the good deal they got....so I need to
I would wait tbh. sticker wouldnt surprise me in the not so distant future, the car is so unusable, expensive and the current environment seems to be degrading quickly
I would wait tbh. sticker wouldnt surprise me in the not so distant future, the car is so unusable, expensive and the current environment seems to be degrading quickly
#7941
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We bought the chalk one in IL. It's a manual. I think you are referring to the same one.
Perfect spec - Chalk, LWBS, PCCB, FAL, White gauges, yellow belts, carbon mirrors, carbon window triangle, black handles, fire extinguisher, illum carbon sills, platinum deviated stitching throughout, large alcantera - alcantera everywhere and much more, $199.700 MSRP, one owner, 7k miles, New full CPO included, full 100% PPF since new. The original owner speced it exactly as we would have - a great find. Probably one of the finest .2 GT3 examples out there.
It is replacing our white 991.1 GT3 development car. We have an all new titanium X-Pipe exhaust system we are currently developing for it.
Perfect spec - Chalk, LWBS, PCCB, FAL, White gauges, yellow belts, carbon mirrors, carbon window triangle, black handles, fire extinguisher, illum carbon sills, platinum deviated stitching throughout, large alcantera - alcantera everywhere and much more, $199.700 MSRP, one owner, 7k miles, New full CPO included, full 100% PPF since new. The original owner speced it exactly as we would have - a great find. Probably one of the finest .2 GT3 examples out there.
It is replacing our white 991.1 GT3 development car. We have an all new titanium X-Pipe exhaust system we are currently developing for it.
awesome and amazing spec!
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John D II (06-15-2023)
#7942
We bought the chalk one in IL. It's a manual. I think you are referring to the same one.
Perfect spec - Chalk, LWBS, PCCB, FAL, White gauges, yellow belts, carbon mirrors, carbon window triangle, black handles, fire extinguisher, illum carbon sills, platinum deviated stitching throughout, large alcantera - alcantera everywhere and much more, $199.700 MSRP, one owner, 7k miles, New full CPO included, full 100% PPF since new. The original owner speced it exactly as we would have - a great find. Probably one of the finest .2 GT3 examples out there.
It is replacing our white 991.1 GT3 development car. We have an all new titanium X-Pipe exhaust system we are currently developing for it.
Perfect spec - Chalk, LWBS, PCCB, FAL, White gauges, yellow belts, carbon mirrors, carbon window triangle, black handles, fire extinguisher, illum carbon sills, platinum deviated stitching throughout, large alcantera - alcantera everywhere and much more, $199.700 MSRP, one owner, 7k miles, New full CPO included, full 100% PPF since new. The original owner speced it exactly as we would have - a great find. Probably one of the finest .2 GT3 examples out there.
It is replacing our white 991.1 GT3 development car. We have an all new titanium X-Pipe exhaust system we are currently developing for it.
#7943
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We bought the chalk one in IL. It's a manual. I think you are referring to the same one.
Perfect spec - Chalk, LWBS, PCCB, FAL, White gauges, yellow belts, carbon mirrors, carbon window triangle, black handles, fire extinguisher, illum carbon sills, platinum deviated stitching throughout, large alcantera - alcantera everywhere and much more, $199.700 MSRP, one owner, 7k miles, New full CPO included, full 100% PPF since new. The original owner speced it exactly as we would have - a great find. Probably one of the finest .2 GT3 examples out there.
It is replacing our white 991.1 GT3 development car. We have an all new titanium X-Pipe exhaust system we are currently developing for it.
Perfect spec - Chalk, LWBS, PCCB, FAL, White gauges, yellow belts, carbon mirrors, carbon window triangle, black handles, fire extinguisher, illum carbon sills, platinum deviated stitching throughout, large alcantera - alcantera everywhere and much more, $199.700 MSRP, one owner, 7k miles, New full CPO included, full 100% PPF since new. The original owner speced it exactly as we would have - a great find. Probably one of the finest .2 GT3 examples out there.
It is replacing our white 991.1 GT3 development car. We have an all new titanium X-Pipe exhaust system we are currently developing for it.
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I am seeing things drop FAST across the board at the moment. Every porsche dealer has 5+ 911's in stock (hasn't happened in over 2 years), allocations fairly open for custom builds and 991 and 992 cars seem to be in free fall, lots of RNM...
I know diablo and some others mock the economy...but maybe this is a sign of things to come...not like 1 year away, but maybe sooner...
I personally thought 991 would level out and 992 would continue to drop....does not seem to be the case at all. 992 C2, T, turbo, maybe GTS....all sticker now for custom orders....pretty crazy how fast that changed.
I know diablo and some others mock the economy...but maybe this is a sign of things to come...not like 1 year away, but maybe sooner...
I personally thought 991 would level out and 992 would continue to drop....does not seem to be the case at all. 992 C2, T, turbo, maybe GTS....all sticker now for custom orders....pretty crazy how fast that changed.
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achenator (06-15-2023)
#7948
Historically speaking, the lowest point of the 991 GT3 market was the 2020 summer. I believe that at that time manual winged GT3s were selling for 20k over and RS was at msrp or slightly below. It seems like we now breached that low point. I dont remember a low mile, CPO manual GT3 with buckets to be as close to msrp as some of these cars have been. I knew this point was coming, I just didnt assume it would arrive so quickly. The BAT/PcarMarket prices of GT3s of this year vs last year is a pretty steep delta. Tourings of 992s had the most drop of average $60,000. That’s a tough pill to swallow considering people paid $125k over for them last year only to sell them $20k over to a dealer now. The only upside in this situation is those people who bought these cars as investments thinking they can just flip them for more took a nice cold bath. Hope they learn a lesson and leave the brand alone for people who actually buy these cars to drive them properly.
The 600 mile car in BAT that went only $7k over is a pretty decent reality check. Market has spoken and this only means more price reduction. I dont think below Msrp by fall is unrealistic.
The 600 mile car in BAT that went only $7k over is a pretty decent reality check. Market has spoken and this only means more price reduction. I dont think below Msrp by fall is unrealistic.
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That Guards Red car would have sold for roughly $165k then (and $215k last summer).
Over 3.5 years, the price variation is within what I assume most GT3 owners see their net worth fluctuate on a daily basis. No one likes to overpay, everyone likes a good deal, but unless anyone here is operating a dealership, I think most would agree that buying and driving a car should be a fun hobby and not a mentally draining chore worrying about economic what ifs.
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#7950
This is factually not true. Not even close. PTS manual GT3's were asking ~10k off MSRP in 4Q19. Porsche Colorado Springs had 4 at one point, and willing to negotiate. I know at least 1 PTS (Fashion Grey) winged manual car at Perimeter Porsche in Atlanta with 5k miles that sold more than $25k below MSRP at that same time. These aren't one offs. That was the market at that time.
That Guards Red car would have sold for roughly $165k then (and $215k last summer).
Over 3.5 years, the price variation is within what I assume most GT3 owners see their net worth fluctuate on a daily basis. No one likes to overpay, everyone likes a good deal, but unless anyone here is operating a dealership, I think most would agree that buying and driving a car should be a fun hobby and not a mentally draining chore worrying about economic what ifs.
That Guards Red car would have sold for roughly $165k then (and $215k last summer).
Over 3.5 years, the price variation is within what I assume most GT3 owners see their net worth fluctuate on a daily basis. No one likes to overpay, everyone likes a good deal, but unless anyone here is operating a dealership, I think most would agree that buying and driving a car should be a fun hobby and not a mentally draining chore worrying about economic what ifs.