The 991 GT3/RS Cars For Sale Thread...
02-23-2023, 06:46 PM
#6796
Drifting
Ok so I listed my .2 GT3RS at $260K. Sold for $255K. $220K sticker, 15K miles.
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02-23-2023, 08:16 PM
#6797
02-23-2023, 10:31 PM
#6798
02-24-2023, 12:17 AM
#6799
Rennlist Member
Miss a downshift from 5 -> 4 and end up in 2, even for a split second, and boom, welcome to range 4/5. **** happens. If you read the discussion on the sale and the actual DME report you'd see there are hundreds of hours of use without issue after those blink of an eye range 4/5 recordings. Would a DME report with no range 4/5 be better? Sure. Was this one really an issue? No. The dealer that did the report had no concerns with it. Porsche would still CPO a car with that report. From what I saw, the seller fulfilled all requests asked of them. No one asked for a cold start video, likely because it's pointless. Carmine red is a great color but wasn't overly popular nor is it rare. That color alone isn't going to save this sale as you seem to imply. If it had a perfect DME report and slightly less miles maybe it sells closer to $180k. A year ago this car would have got $200k easy.
Some of y'all seem to really be grasping at straws to try and explain away prices that have been declining for almost a year now. It's weird to say the least, especially when looked at against the economic reality.
Some of y'all seem to really be grasping at straws to try and explain away prices that have been declining for almost a year now. It's weird to say the least, especially when looked at against the economic reality.
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02-24-2023, 02:25 AM
#6801
Drifting
02-24-2023, 02:30 AM
#6802
the BAT 991.1 GT3 RS is now on Autotrader: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...gId=673588496&
BAT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...911-gt3-rs-28/
Bid up to 165k; reserve not met.
My guess is that seller wants 182k
If you want seller to eat **** and accept 165, may have to wait a few more months for the pain to set in. But in my head, ~170k is already the comp for 991.1 GT3 RS.
BAT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...911-gt3-rs-28/
Bid up to 165k; reserve not met.
My guess is that seller wants 182k
If you want seller to eat **** and accept 165, may have to wait a few more months for the pain to set in. But in my head, ~170k is already the comp for 991.1 GT3 RS.
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02-24-2023, 02:48 AM
#6803
Pro
The final price reflects a range that you're seeing more and more winged cars listed at on AutoTrader, cars.com, etc. For cars listed above that range, I imagine a lot of them sell in or near it. Calling the DME a "big" issue is making mountains out of mole hills as nothing about it looked genuinely concerning. Markets are adjusting and have been since last spring. Will be interesting to see if it continues, or perhaps reverses heading into this spring.
From the comments in that auction:
"Car has 392 hours but somewhere around 100 hours somebody missed the downshift and briefly hit range 4 & 5, which is bad, but since it’s run another 290 hours without bad behavior (?) it’s probably fine."
"The over-rev occurred a while ago; I can recall an incident where I downshifted in an emergency. Apart from the service records, I never had any warranty work done on the car – it’s been operating flawlessly since the first day I drove it. When I received the DME report the dealer had no concerns."
"The actual CPO rules state that if a car has minimal over-revs in range 4 or 5, and the the car has had at least 100 operating hours since, it can be CPO’d. 332 ignitions in range 4, and 189 in range 5 is really not a big deal. If it was over 1k ignitions each, then you could say the engine spent significant time in those ranges. The engine spent much less than the blink of an eye in the two ranges, and are really insignificant, hardly worth the doomsday scenario people are projecting here."
From the comments in that auction:
"Car has 392 hours but somewhere around 100 hours somebody missed the downshift and briefly hit range 4 & 5, which is bad, but since it’s run another 290 hours without bad behavior (?) it’s probably fine."
"The over-rev occurred a while ago; I can recall an incident where I downshifted in an emergency. Apart from the service records, I never had any warranty work done on the car – it’s been operating flawlessly since the first day I drove it. When I received the DME report the dealer had no concerns."
"The actual CPO rules state that if a car has minimal over-revs in range 4 or 5, and the the car has had at least 100 operating hours since, it can be CPO’d. 332 ignitions in range 4, and 189 in range 5 is really not a big deal. If it was over 1k ignitions each, then you could say the engine spent significant time in those ranges. The engine spent much less than the blink of an eye in the two ranges, and are really insignificant, hardly worth the doomsday scenario people are projecting here."
Given that, and the 11k miles, I thought the price was pretty darn good for both seller and buyer, imo.
02-24-2023, 03:14 AM
#6804
Drifting
02-24-2023, 09:59 AM
#6805
Who says values are dropping? Nobody told this dealer….
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
02-24-2023, 10:03 AM
#6806
Good results in this market. Continues to prove the right spec and color will bring a premium. Tons of Lizard Greens out there but very rare Miami Blues. Mine has the Weissach Package, $238k sticker and full Dundon Power package. Hopefully when I’m ready to sell it will hold similar value. I also think once the new RSs hit the market, their price will make these look like a good value.
02-24-2023, 10:13 AM
#6807
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02-24-2023, 11:36 AM
#6808
Who says values are dropping? Nobody told this dealer….
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
02-24-2023, 11:50 AM
#6809
Drifting
Good results in this market. Continues to prove the right spec and color will bring a premium. Tons of Lizard Greens out there but very rare Miami Blues. Mine has the Weissach Package, $238k sticker and full Dundon Power package. Hopefully when I’m ready to sell it will hold similar value. I also think once the new RSs hit the market, their price will make these look like a good value.
Man... MB is the best color. I'm really sad to see this car go, but I'm trying to focus on other things like getting a business off the ground and I'll be moving somewhere where I can't really use a car like this unfortunately. Best car in the world though.
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02-25-2023, 12:59 AM
#6810
Burning Brakes
I sold my Miami blue 991.2 gt3rs about a year ago for 24 over and honestly thought that was nuts.
it shocks me the prices are still this high and you got that much.
you did very very well. I mean **** is hitting the fan so hard right now on everything from Rolex’s to houses to cars, so I think you won’t regret it if you have other toys to enjoy in the meantime
I just needed to sell a scud or the Mb rs and if you’ve driven a scud….well imo the rs is a 9.5/10 car but scuds are 11/10 and only car I’ll never sell
it shocks me the prices are still this high and you got that much.
you did very very well. I mean **** is hitting the fan so hard right now on everything from Rolex’s to houses to cars, so I think you won’t regret it if you have other toys to enjoy in the meantime
I just needed to sell a scud or the Mb rs and if you’ve driven a scud….well imo the rs is a 9.5/10 car but scuds are 11/10 and only car I’ll never sell
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