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Old 10-16-2020, 12:51 PM
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Ha, with Rory's Cayenne in the background
Old 10-16-2020, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 911Jetta
Didn't ask the guys why they were lifting their engine lids...
Cooling turbos. I do that for my 3TT on runs. Keep motor running to dissipate hot oil from turbos
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Old 10-16-2020, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chsu74
Cooling turbos. I do that for my 3TT on runs. Keep motor running to dissipate hot oil from turbos
That was sarcasm on my part, but that said, none of the cars with lifted lids have Turbos. Boy did they sound glorious as they screamed past me!
These owners all have/had air cooled cars, so probably an old habit.
Just joking around.

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Old 10-16-2020, 01:21 PM
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@911Jetta That color on your 964 is stunning. Enjoy it in good health and pm me if you ever decide to sell. I could use a few laps around Homestead myself.
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Old 10-16-2020, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spartansix
Ha, with Rory's Cayenne in the background
And all beat to hell. Probably the most fun vehicle in attendance.




Or this one!

Sorry for getting off topic... it’s Friday and soon time to drive



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Old 10-16-2020, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
I haven't seen a Supercup on track in at least 14 years. I always found those interesting but stupidly expensive to run with such high strung engines.
This couple is at Potomac events often.


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Old 10-17-2020, 09:27 PM
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-carrera-2-18/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-carrera-2-38/

Two diff options: 1 highly nicely modded, and 1 OEM. Cobalt Buyers get to choose!
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Old 10-17-2020, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 9SIX4-C4
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-carrera-2-18/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-carrera-2-38/

Two diff options: 1 highly nicely modded, and 1 OEM. Cobalt Buyers get to choose!
I know we struggle with production numbers for 964’s but we have a general idea of what was produced for each model. I’m curious if anyone has actually paid attention to US and or total global production for each of the colors. What are the odds of having two 964 coupes in cobalt blue for sale in the same venue at the same time.
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Old 10-17-2020, 10:46 PM
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Old 10-18-2020, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Marine Blue
I know we struggle with production numbers for 964’s but we have a general idea of what was produced for each model. I’m curious if anyone has actually paid attention to US and or total global production for each of the colors. What are the odds of having two 964 coupes in cobalt blue for sale in the same venue at the same time.

I have looked at so many 964 coupes I can no longer keep track. In all honesty it is impossible to say how many are painted in cobalt. Although I can assure you it is not many at least in the US. I see far more cabs in this color than coupes but if I was hard pressed to come up with an answer I would say I have seen about two dozen Cabs and about a dozen coupes to date. I have only seen one targa and about 6 91-92 3.3l turbos, 3 94 turbos for the US market so far. We know from the turbo Look registry that 2 America roadsters and 1 94 C4 wide body were painted in cobalt for the US and 1 for the ROW. So odds of two showing up for auction at the same time is a rarity no doubt.

IMO the second cobalt that just showed up doesn't look like cobalt but a bit darker but is in low light so I am speculating it has been repainted the first ones paint is in rough shape but could probably be addressed.

It would be nice if someone could access this info as they had for the 928 and 968 but for some reason Porsche is very tight lipped about 964 production info.
Old 10-18-2020, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
I have looked at so many 964 coupes I can no longer keep track. In all honesty it is impossible to say how many are painted in cobalt. Although I can assure you it is not many at least in the US. I see far more cabs in this color than coupes but if I was hard pressed to come up with an answer I would say I have seen about two dozen Cabs and about a dozen coupes to date. I have only seen one targa and about 6 91-92 3.3l turbos, 3 94 turbos for the US market so far. We know from the turbo Look registry that 2 America roadsters and 1 94 C4 wide body were painted in cobalt for the US and 1 for the ROW. So odds of two showing up for auction at the same time is a rarity no doubt.

IMO the second cobalt that just showed up doesn't look like cobalt but a bit darker but is in low light so I am speculating it has been repainted the first ones paint is in rough shape but could probably be addressed.

It would be nice if someone could access this info as they had for the 928 and 968 but for some reason Porsche is very tight lipped about 964 production info.
i do think for the 964 generation, the Cobalt Blue will rate from 4-5 Paint cans if we use the Rennbow rating.


Old 10-18-2020, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
I haven't seen a Supercup on track in at least 14 years. I always found those interesting but stupidly expensive to run with such high strung engines.
Anthony, I had both Carrera Cups and SuperCups in the 964/993 era. I found them really reasonable to run, except for the expensive tire budget throughout the weekend. Those engines didn't really get that high strung until they reached the RSR level. I could run several races with doing nothing more than changing the fluids. My 996 Supercup was more expensive to run than the others. But I think people would be foolish to run them now. They have become worth too much money to destroy in a lapse of judgement
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Old 10-19-2020, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 9SIX4-C4
i do think for the 964 generation, the Cobalt Blue will rate from 4-5 Paint cans if we use the Rennbow rating.
I am not so convinced. They group cobalt together with the later version of cobalt used from 1999 on. The 996 and boxster/cayman platform had many painted in cobalt. Same base color but doesn't color shift as the earlier cars did. They rate it at 3 cans since far more of the later water cooled cars paid a premium for the color. Interestingly they give my Amazon Green 964 a 4 can rating. It was only used from 91-94. In comparison it is a very common color on the 964 I have seen at least 3 dozen Amazon green coupes, multiple turbos, wide body and targa/cab versions of the 964 painted in this color. Even the 928 GTS found 12 cars painted Amazon while only one was painted in Cobalt. IMO the 1999 version of cobalt should be segregated from the earlier cobalt since the color is a different mix. I would be guessing but a 4-5 can rating would be used if it applied to only the 90's cars.

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Anthony, I had both Carrera Cups and SuperCups in the 964/993 era. I found them really reasonable to run, except for the expensive tire budget throughout the weekend. Those engines didn't really get that high strung until they reached the RSR level. I could run several races with doing nothing more than changing the fluids. My 996 Supercup was more expensive to run than the others. But I think people would be foolish to run them now. They have become worth too much money to destroy in a lapse of judgement
I have to take your word on it I knew a husband wife team that had one at our local DE's for many years and they rebuilt the engine quite often. I was told that they were like the 996 cups which could use a rebuild every 45 hours or so. Although I have been working on a 996 cup that had over 400 hours on the engine and only 20% leak down in all cylinders and way down on power. LOL
Old 10-19-2020, 06:49 PM
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A very attractive time capsule '90 C2 just popped up on BaT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-39/
Old 10-20-2020, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by elbeee964
A very attractive time capsule '90 C2 just popped up on BaT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-39/

So someone on bat just called this out, same seller selling it now posted here a year ago In the 964 prices thread saying he was looking at buying it from an older man for $33,000 however on bat it’s a different story saying it’s his fathers car I think.

regardless it’s a good looking car, but I like to also “buy the seller” and honesty matters.

Originally Posted by Jlini911
Good evening all, new member with first post who would appreciate the group’s input. I am looking at buying a 1990 964 C2 with approximately 55,000 miles. White exterior with wine/burgundy interior (not sure what the official color is called). It is in excellent condition inside and out, current owner (2nd) has had it for about 20 years and has only put 15,000 or so miles on it. This is the 4th Porsche he has owned and or restored so he knows how to take care of them. What do people feel is a fair price for a 964 of this vintage and condition?

FYI, I think he is going to ask around $33K which it seems is a fair price given the limited research I have had a chance to do.

Appreciate any input from the group.

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