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Old 09-12-2020, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Anderson
assless chaps or spandex ?
Old 09-12-2020, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Anderson
assless chaps or spandex ?
From the man of few words
Old 09-12-2020, 12:37 AM
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I'm pretty confident the tan vinyl is original, it's the same color on all surfaces though the grain of the vinyl is very different from later cars- it's super rough grain. Very close in color to later cars' Champagne. The color combo is (AFAICT) identical to that in Olmann's Euro #0021, which predates this car by a month or three. Whoever painted this car removed the VIN tag in the door jamb, so I don't know whether this is a November or December '77 production. (It retains the A-pillar and passenger inner fender VINs) . I wasn't about to pay for a Porsche PPS given their batting average on getting interior colors correct.
Old 09-12-2020, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Anderson
assless chaps or spandex ?
Why not both?
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Old 09-12-2020, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
1978 US production #11 (serial # 0021) is now live on BAT, no reserve. Ask me anything!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-porsche-928-25/
this is going to create a valuable data point for early cars that aren’t “done” yet. I think it should do well because of how much it does have. Good luck Rob
Old 09-12-2020, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by linderpat
this is going to create a valuable data point for early cars that aren’t “done” yet. I think it should do well because of how much it does have. Good luck Rob
True that! I have a few early cars in my sights but need to get the owners to be realistic with their valuations.
Of course, I might be the one that is wrong!
Old 09-13-2020, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
I'm pretty confident the tan vinyl is original, it's the same color on all surfaces though the grain of the vinyl is very different from later cars- it's super rough grain. Very close in color to later cars' Champagne. The color combo is (AFAICT) identical to that in Olmann's Euro #0021, which predates this car by a month or three. Whoever painted this car removed the VIN tag in the door jamb, so I don't know whether this is a November or December '77 production. (It retains the A-pillar and passenger inner fender VINs) . I wasn't about to pay for a Porsche PPS given their batting average on getting interior colors correct.
My 78, VIN 9288200026, still has the tag on the door jamb and shows a build date of October 1977. Do you know (or does anyone else know) where these early US cars fit into the overall build sequence with the Euro/RoW cars? The PO of my car claimed it was among the first 30-40 but I have no idea where he got his information.

And Rob, you mentioned a Carfax in your listing ... I didnt think Carfax had reports on the pre-17 digit VIN cars. How did you get that?

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Old 09-13-2020, 12:35 PM
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What about the masking tape under the Glovebox Tray showing the build production number? Would that also be a combination of ROW and US cars or are the ROW cars and US cars separate production numbered on the masking Tape designation? This would be a good question for Robert.


Old 09-13-2020, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by longrunner1
What about the masking tape under the Glovebox Tray showing the build production number? Would that also be a combination of ROW and US cars or are the ROW cars and US cars separate production numbered on the masking Tape designation? This would be a good question for Robert.
US and RoW VINs are separate and parallel. So you would have a US serial# 0016 & RoW serial# 0016.
And for MY78, RoW production started first and preceeded US production by 3 months (excluding pre-prod cars which were hand built several months before).
There were approx 300 RoW 928s built before the US prod started.

However, if you want your prod#, it's on your 928. The tape under the glovebox is okay, but not all US got the tape (seems more RoW did).
Better is the prod# stamping on the inside of the rear hatch.

And even with this prod#, you would have a difficult time figuring build date for RoW cars because they haven't the door jamb VIN sticker (w/build date) like their US counterparts.
I collect MY78 VIN, prod# and build date data on a smart spreadsheet, which triangulates US prod# and build dates with RoW prod# to approximate RoW build dates. It has a lot of 'hole's but is accurate to within month (sometimes better).

More info on all this here:
https://928classics.com/serial-vs-pr...numbers-77-78/

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Old 09-14-2020, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadz928
US and RoW VINs are separate and parallel. So you would have a US serial# 0016 & RoW serial# 0016.
And for MY78, RoW production started first and preceeded US production by 3 months (excluding pre-prod cars which were hand built several months before).
There were approx 300 RoW 928s built before the US prod started.

However, if you want your prod#, it's on your 928. The tape under the glovebox is okay, but not all US got the tape (seems more RoW did).
Better is the prod# stamping on the inside of the rear hatch.

And even with this prod#, you would have a difficult time figuring build date for RoW cars because they haven't the door jamb VIN sticker (w/build date) like their US counterparts.
I collect MY78 VIN, prod# and build date data on a smart spreadsheet, which triangulates US prod# and build dates with RoW prod# to approximate RoW build dates. It has a lot of 'hole's but is accurate to within month (sometimes better).

More info on all this here:
https://928classics.com/serial-vs-pr...numbers-77-78/






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Old 09-14-2020, 02:06 AM
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1979, manual with 33K miles and one owner for $15K. Interior looks quite lovely for original.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/114363327877

Old 09-14-2020, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 928 GT R



Reilly Deifenbach woulda liked to see that spreadsheet.
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Old 09-14-2020, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ried
1979, manual with 33K miles and one owner for $15K. Interior looks quite lovely for original.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/114363327877
Call me a cynic, but the condition, price and mileage make me skeptical.....
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Originally Posted by Pete in DC
Reilly Deifenbach woulda liked to see that spreadsheet.
"Yer darn tootin he woulda" - - - "seems to be lotsa missin parts"



Old 09-14-2020, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 928 GT R


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