Macca

John. That's a really sensible approach. The straight is more indicative of the power of the car than the laptime (which is the driver).

Im hoping the drop in weight of around 130kg over last time (passenger, some reduction in Aug at CCS, tool kit & pump), the slight improvements in suspension (monoballs, camber plates, news settings, RS upright & tie rods and a few other items) and the R compound tyres (hankook 221) will get me up around 198-200kmph on that straight and an improvements of 3-4's in best lap time (1.18-19s) next time Im out at HD. If I had more time at HD Id then start shaving time through getting better at driving and setting up the car (maybe another 2.0+s there).

Im guessing my next session at HD will be my second ever and last for maybe 6+ months, so I will need to make the most of it. After that its NITT, Europe, SITT but hope to get an HD day in again maybe earlier in March 2014. I will have to start all over again by then LOL!

The car eventually will be the limiting factor once the driver has run out of talent. For a fairly stock 964C4 with its extra weight I would say that is 1.20, for a 964C2 like Davids maybe 1.18, for a 993 like mine perhaps 1.15-1.16. For Matt with his Gt3 maybe 1.14-1.15. Getting time out below 1.18 will be incrementally more difficult and the differing cars get stacked alot closer. Most of us may never achieve the full potential of our cars as detailed above but its true if we moved to say a 997.3 GT3 our times would probably drop considerably again. I suspect a well driven 3.8 GT3/RS should be good for 1.12 no problem.

peterC2S

Yes we've seen that one on TM for a while. Nik found photos of it doing targa duty a few years back.

kiwi 911

I know - they are just starting to make a lot more sense at the moment......

(and cheque book racing here we come..............)

Macca

They make sense cause they are "fit for purpose". This is why IMO the whole GT3 genera was invested and is so popular in the UK & USA where they are actually frequently used as weekend track toys. Buy it, use it, park it and do it all over again (reliably).

Trying to make essentially a road car platform into a fit for purpose track car is as you say an expensive solution.....as I say, if I were doing it again it would be 996 GT3, a few modest upgrades (known weaknesses) and then just enjoy it....

peterC2S

Don't be a spoilsport Macca -
we're having fun turning our road cars into track machines!!

Or has Robert got you on commission....?!

Macca

Guys - don't get me wrong. I need all the company I can get in this "hot rodders" 911 club LOL!

O2GO

Yesterday Robert told me he's sold his 996 GT3 then later talking to Nigel (I think his name is Nigel... owns a grey 986 S) he said he'd bought one.... The one and same. Small world.

peterC2S

That's great news - shows that the 'unbroken' ones will sell fast at the right price.

John McM

I'll keep you company, at a modest level.

kiwi 911

The car is looking good John.

Macca

Ducktail is going to finish it off very nicely...

John McM

I certainly hope so. The ducktail is taking longer than expected. Tail from Rennspd, Grille from Design 911 and fixtures yet to come from Pelican (held up by a special order billet badge from JMH). I will post the story on the 964 forum when it's all fitted. The cost for the tail itself was relatively modest, however the rest adds up. I don't think I'll see any other Kiwi 964s with one on. I suspect the same with the Fuchs, although Dave appears to be developing an itch.

Dave, one point I forgot to mention yesterday, when I saw Dean a few weeks ago, he mentioned that Kevin's (cup car) wheels have developed cracks. Something to think about re used vs new wheels. At least with new you won't be wondering while loading them up in the sweeper on R tyres.

Maxem

Yep, got an itch alright, theres just the minor detail of 5g's standing between me and a set of Fuchs. Plus tyres. Just as well I love my D90's.

PHG

congrats john..there is nothing a full wallet can't fix..Car looks great. I guess the TT is consigned to the back of the garage for a while..

John McM

Thanks Phil. Actually I'm getting SRF put in the TT and pads checked this week. It will likely be at HD on Saturday. I'm looking at keeping the C4 for a long time so no hurry while I iron out the last few things. I am also swayed by seeing the TT s on Saturday, where they were mixing it up with GT3s.