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Old 11-06-2016, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pel
Replacing the discs on the GT3, design911 has a few options:

OEM Brand: Front 199gbp, Rear 65gbp

Original Porsche: Front 325.94gbp, Rear 141.90gbp

Considering the cars use I don't want to scrimp, however surely the OEM rotors are also fit for purpose?

http://www.design911.com/Porsche/996...-cmo110-ct354/

Paul, what are you using?

Side note, I couldn't find anywhere except for Suncoast parts that sells GT4 rotors yet, Design911 & Pelican don't. Looks the same for 991 GT3.

Suncoast charge 75% more than Design911 for OEM 996 GT3 rotors, Macca where are you sourcing yours?
Originally Posted by Chris_chch
I just did the front rotors and pads on the 996TT. All in, was $460 NZD for the lot, delivered from design911.

Rotors and pads were advertised as OEM BRAND, but were actually PADGID.

Best bit, was ordered Tuesday, had them in my hands at 3pm Friday, and no GST!
Have been very happy with Sebro slotteds from PelicanParts on the Turbo, and I see they do them for the GT3 too. The factory drilled originals for the Turbo crack out too fast when worked hard, as well as costing more. I had to buy an emergency pair of original Porsche fronts for the NZ Festival of Motor Racing back in February, as my Sebro delivery had been held up, but I swapped them out as soon as the Sebros arrived. I would trust Pagid too of course...
Old 11-06-2016, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pcarplayer
I think you are about on the mark John. One thing I would add though is that sports suspension, coilovers or otherwise, should be seen as a sweetener rather than adding significantly to the price. The buyer interest I had (albeit only a few) were as interested in originality as anything else

Many on this forum see a track advantage in updated suspension, sways, mounts, etc but many end user have different use cases for 964 which don't see these embellishments as any real value add
A good point Warwick. I singled out suspension as a number of 964s still appear to be rolling around on original parts e.g. the Project car with 237,000km on the odometer and I imagined most buyers would value a sports car that handled over one that didn’t. Maybe the buyer expectation is that a sorted car would have refreshed suspension as standard.

BTW: Interesting comment re originality. I think that will become more of a feature in prices paid. If there are parts available I’m buying now. The steering wheel was a good example. They may cost a lot but what are the other choices if it must be original?
Old 11-06-2016, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Macca
Thats incredible pricing! I think OEM front pads for the GT3/4 ex USA are around $300 USD on their own!
When I was adding parts to the shopping basket, I also thought that it must be per side as seemed very cheap.

Then I got an email saying the shipping was going to be more due to the weight... Here it comes..

Was only an extra 20 pounds
Old 11-06-2016, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by John McM
A good point Warwick. I singled out suspension as a number of 964s still appear to be rolling around on original parts e.g. the Project car with 237,000km on the odometer and I imagined most buyers would value a sports car that handled over one that didn’t. Maybe the buyer expectation is that a sorted car would have refreshed suspension as standard.

BTW: Interesting comment re originality. I think that will become more of a feature in prices paid. If there are parts available I’m buying now. The steering wheel was a good example. They may cost a lot but what are the other choices if it must be original?

My gut feeling is originality is steadily becoming more desirable. There is even a resurgence in how D90's are being seen over the last year or so. Flags next? The worm is turning for the 964
Old 11-06-2016, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pcarplayer
My gut feeling is originality is steadily becoming more desirable. There is even a resurgence in how D90's are being seen over the last year or so. Flags next? The worm is turning for the 964
Davids prediction finally might be coming true!
Old 11-07-2016, 12:57 AM
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Interesting read - Road and Track's 2017 Performance Car of the Year: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...r-of-the-year/

They reckon the Japanese are delivering cars with more feel these days, now that Porsche have caught up to them again on the electro-trickery front - but seemingly at the expense of Porsche's previous lead on feel. Hopefully reviews and competitor awards like this will kick Porsche to do something really wild, like maybe bring back a proper handbrake and PSM defeat, at least for we less litigious ROW markets.

Though it seems Porsche are not alone in sliding back, as even the crowned victor suffers from backward comparison in some of R&T's own other reviews:

"If there's compromise, you want it in the pursuit of performance, not livability. There was a time when you felt a little NSX in your Accord. Now there's too much Accord in your NSX."
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...x-first-drive/

If there's now that much Accord in the winning NSX, how much Passat is being baked into the next generation of Porsches?
Old 11-07-2016, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Macca
Mmmm. Probably best to look at that again. its 187K for a car that lists with Porsche NZ at 208K prior to discount and options.

Maybe saving 35-38K over buying NZ new before discount and getting to spec yourself. Also the car listed is effectively used (2000km) and will not have the NZ 3 year warranty.

Im not sure its a stonking deal?
You will know better than I Macca, but a NZ 991.2 is hard to get for under $250K (is my understanding) - you might have to run the exercise for us please if you have a lazy hour or 2 (C2S with buckets in manual, RSG spec so no unnecessary extras, sport suspension and no sunroof).

Basically Ron's car with buckets?

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Originally Posted by Pel
Replacing the discs on the GT3, design911 has a few options:

OEM Brand: Front 199gbp, Rear 65gbp

Original Porsche: Front 325.94gbp, Rear 141.90gbp

Considering the cars use I don't want to scrimp, however surely the OEM rotors are also fit for purpose?

http://www.design911.com/Porsche/996...-cmo110-ct354/

Paul, what are you using?

Side note, I couldn't find anywhere except for Suncoast parts that sells GT4 rotors yet, Design911 & Pelican don't. Looks the same for 991 GT3.

Suncoast charge 75% more than Design911 for OEM 996 GT3 rotors, Macca where are you sourcing yours?
I have floating disks on the front as this makes replacement much cheaper and I can use slotted disks as cross drilled don't last long, the floating disks and hat came from race brakes and where the same cost as OEM disks (so a no brainer), I have OEM disks on the rear.

This was a more long term strategy for me and may not suit you......

Edit - just gaggle a good discount with Gillies or CCS.

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Old 11-07-2016, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by kiwi 911
You will know better than I Macca, but a NZ 991.2 is hard to get for under $250K (is my understanding) - you might has to run the exercise for us please if you have a lazy hour or 2 (C2S with buckets in manual, RSG spec so no unnecessary extras, sport suspension and no sunroof).
Yes but the car the link refers to is a Carrera not a Carrera S. A similar spec car would cost 220k at the dealer in NZ so 34k saving and this is before any discount haggled with the local dealer. Given a NZ car with 3 year warranty has a premium over a NZ new car of the same model and spec I'm suggesting this isn't such a great deal...a C2S might be a different case of course...
Old 11-07-2016, 04:42 AM
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Thanks Guys,

Chris, you got the deal of the century, OEM GT3 discs are 644gbp before freight.

Walter, for some reason the Sebros only come slotted at the rear and drilled up front.

Will call race brakes tomorrow re the slotted option, on the hoist with the wheels off, caliper repaint, Final Touch has weekend work on the detail, front bumper off Wednesday for a respray, want it to look right. Fell back in love with it once the original wheels went back on.

John/Warwick, if you want an easier working height whilst doing the project car, your welcome to the hoist for a weekend, It's 2 degrees warmer on the Shore, so wear sunscreen.

Haven't read the R&T article yet, but surprised a hybrid took Car Of The Year, more surprised the Viper ACR was not there.
Old 11-07-2016, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pel
Thanks Guys,

Chris, you got the deal of the century, OEM GT3 discs are 644gbp before freight.

Walter, for some reason the Sebros only come slotted at the rear and drilled up front.

Haven't read the R&T article yet, but surprised a hybrid took Car Of The Year, more surprised the Viper ACR was not there.
Pity re the Sebros. On the ACR front, maybe no sufficiently new model this year? It made top four last time: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...r-of-the-year/ I was stoked to see one at Contis a year or two back.
Old 11-07-2016, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 996tnz
Have been very happy with Sebro slotteds from PelicanParts on the Turbo, and I see they do them for the GT3 too. The factory drilled originals for the Turbo crack out too fast when worked hard, as well as costing more. I had to buy an emergency pair of original Porsche fronts for the NZ Festival of Motor Racing back in February, as my Sebro delivery had been held up, but I swapped them out as soon as the Sebros arrived. I would trust Pagid too of course...
Originally Posted by Pel
Thanks Guys,

Chris, you got the deal of the century, OEM GT3 discs are 644gbp before freight.

Walter, for some reason the Sebros only come slotted at the rear and drilled up front.

Will call race brakes tomorrow re the slotted option, on the hoist with the wheels off, caliper repaint, Final Touch has weekend work on the detail, front bumper off Wednesday for a respray, want it to look right. Fell back in love with it once the original wheels went back on.

John/Warwick, if you want an easier working height whilst doing the project car, your welcome to the hoist for a weekend, It's 2 degrees warmer on the Shore, so wear sunscreen.

Haven't read the R&T article yet, but surprised a hybrid took Car Of The Year, more surprised the Viper ACR was not there.
I would also like to attest to the Sebro slotted rotors.

Blew through the factory OEM pads on my CR in a silly amount of time and they faded horribly. Found the factory drilled rotors were cracking more than I cared for and was in a bind and couldn't get the Girodiscs, so I replaced the rotors with Sebros and at the same time I bumped up the pads to the Ferodo DS1.11. Night and Day difference. No fade no matter how hard pressed or long the session is, and after 4 track days the Ferodo pads still look barely worn and the Sebro rotors are looking exceptional.

Rotors cost me about $540 USD for all four, and the DS1.11s were about $625 USD for both sets.

Quite thrilled with the results for the price. Now I just needs tires than can handle the braking, the Super Sports were not happy with it. Debating RE71R, Cup 2, or R888.
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Originally Posted by Fabspeed Motorsport
I would also like to attest to the Sebro slotted rotors.
Originally Posted by Pel
Walter, for some reason the Sebros only come slotted at the rear and drilled up front.
Good to know I'm not alone in appreciating the Sebros John. Pel, in the absence of slotted Sebros for the front of the GT3, there's another slotted option. You'd have to do your own due diligence as I haven't used them on a GT3 or researched them too much but per a number of threads here and elsewhere, a 996 GT3's 350mm fronts are interchangeable with the 350mms on the Cayenne S. Vouched for here for instance: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-...ack-use-2.htmlTirerack for one looks to have Stoptech slotted fronts at around US$ 123: http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resul...ategory=Rotors

I looked at floating rotors too back when first looking to replace the factory ones. Can't remember the brand I checked anymore but I do recall that they recommended the hats be replaced with every second or third floating rotor if tracking them, which pretty much killed any savings on the Turbo.

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Worth considering Brembo Type III rotors if it's going to be driven by you longer term. Gene at Racer Products can supply them locally, and based on my recent experience buying Hawk Performance pads (experiment for road driving) they may be cheaper to buy locally than import.
www.racerproducts.co.nz

Or go mental and upgrade to CCB. From what I understand the early Porsche CCB kit is expensive and outdated. Going to a more modern kit will give better performance, longevity and is cheaper to service. http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-CCB-Sy...ccb-por-02.htm

Significant investment up front however...
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Thanks John, will look into it, good to hear.


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