Too right Macca. Getting it sorted. Need to boost the 964 numbers. Maybe Lola will be back in the game by then too

 

Thanks Sam, nice VW. This is the ideal car from my partner's point of view, but her acceptance criteria boils down to "does it have a pretty face". The cruiser needs to double as an occasional DD for her as well, and I can't see this working for her, especially given she can't (yet) drive a manual.

Are you going to come along to the April 28th track day?

Nice work John, looking forward to seeing the Cayman in action.

 

Warwick, good to have you on board. I see you are all signed up now as is Phil G. That's 22! We still have the likes of Richard S, John H, Sean S etc to sign up. I think we will make the existing 25 quota without issue.

Doug has signed up - the power of positive thought. Im sure Lola will be ready in time and if not there is the RS60.

John, ask Paul to help you take the R and run both is you wish. The format lends itself very well to that.

Joanna & Mandy will organise food/drink like last time and we will have a feast afterwards.

 

+1

Nice analogy Jake - suspect he has already moved on - that younger metal is addictive!

Phil - I'll have you signed up today so you can access the RSG web forum and sign up for events directly there. I seem to recall a contribution in pizza that will suffice!

Wholeheartedly agree. Its the price you pay for a wide range of personalities
- welcome to the interweb. This is generally a whole lot more civil than a good % of the thread over on Pistonheads... though sometimes its fun to be a voyeur and dirty yourself over there!

LOL - too true! Gilbert wisdom for sure!

 

This sounds like a good day coming up. You are right Macca, we are far from driving gods but living as one in my own mind makes me feel good!
You know, turning up at HD, fettling the car, squeezing into the race suit, click of the harnesses, getting into first, booting it out of the pit lane......the fact that I'm a fair bit closer to the talentless end of the scale behind the wheel is secondary to the occasion!

 

RE brake fluid, I've been thinking about this only because I'm forever reading about people changing over to Castrol/Motul, and am getting closer to a major service. Out of interest, how many here run the OEM (ATE I think?) fluid?

Reference for boiling points: https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/2012/155.pdf

 

This isn't funny dude - went to see my car yesterday and it's still under covers, no work on the 993 and the Audi still has it's ding............

 

Whatever mate - Mendes and you are sand-baggers in your Pcars, but the BB times show you guys are no slouches.

It's quite interesting that the BB lap time spread is only about 1 sec for most of us and that anyone could probably be at the top of the leader board given a grippy track and a full day to get into the groove.

Maybe we are all driving gods??

 

Dave - while I remember, I saw the 74 back date 911 in shades of grey that you had spotted. It's at Stu's getting some work done on it. It's quite good bones for a back date project and well done so far.

There are also a couple of manual 964 C4's for those who are 964 fans.........

 

Yes, but look on the positive side, Herman has a new windscreen and I didn't have to wait long.....

 

^^^ Love it mate!

 

I'm getting the Grinch sorted. Will also get parts for BB. BB2 is ok as is unless someone wants to take her away for a toe adjustment. Really keen to try the Integra train again.

 

OEM seems to be ATE SL or Pentosin Super DOT 4, which are around 265°C dry/165°C wet. The general consensus is to keep an eye on the wet BP as that's what the fluid degrading to, but since there's little to no documentation about how fast the various fluids absorb moisture, it doesn't tell you much about when you should bleed or flush the system.

I ran fresh OEM fluid in my old 964 for a few track sessions, but I'd end up with a softer pedal (but still okay braking) about half way through a day at the track. I switched to SRF after that, and it was much improved. It'll be different car-to-car; the 997T will generate much more heat from higher speeds, but has a much bigger brake system and better cooling than a 964, so it's hard to say how much my experience would apply to your car. Any of the "race" fluids will be a decent upgrade. The most important thing is that the fluid is fresh (<6 months old) and, if you've had any pedal softness at a previous event or in the previous session, at a minimum bleed the calipers before going out again.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the weakness may be the pads rather than the fluid (or will certainly be the pads after the fluid). After switching the 964 to SRF, I would run through a set of OEM rear pads in a couple of days since the wear increases dramatically at higher temperatures. There are various pads that provide difference compromises along the street-track-race spectrum depending on your needs, driving style, and budget. Then, once you've upgraded the pads, you'll probably find pads that are better for the track are much harder on your brake rotors... of course, there's an upgrade path for that too. I can't remember if your car has PCCBs, but if it does, have a chat to Steve R and a read online about using them on track... they can end up being extremely expensive if they're overheated or the pads are permitted to wear down too much.

 

For a cost comparison. SRF is approx $150 per litre compared Porsche fluid at $75 per litre.

My 996TT took one litre. The C4 took two litres. For the modern cars at least it's not an expensive upgrade. I've never had brake fade post SRF installation in the C4.

 

That would be it. The Lady hasn't responded to my offer on the day and I didn't get her number. Never mind, I have enough to do now with the SC and this one looked like a car that could keep you busy and broke.