Maxem

Hey, those are classics. I failed to lift their profile so now I'm backing cookie cutters.

Macca

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Maxem

The RE11's did well. Matt fitted them and I continued on with them so they have done a fair bit of work.

O2GO

Yes and I did 4 track days on the SITT and one at HD so stood up well. Nice progressive fun too.

gt38088

Thinking of Me Macca??
In your pic you are remarkable straight approaching the concrete wall.
Normally in the Fraser I would be flat and just arriving at the outside of the track at the tyre bundle which protects the concrete wall end. very little protection inside the car but lots of fun .....

Macca

RE11 is a UTQG200 tread wear road tyre. They are heavy with fat tread blocks (10mm including bars) and last well because they are a fairly hard compound. They were designed in 2008 so not the latest tech now. I ran a set on the 993 2010-2013. I used them on my very first track day at HD in 2013. They went off very quickly then became quite greasy. I used them for a 5 day Targa Tour in 2012. They were ok on the chip seal but are quite a noisy road tyre because of their weight and sidewall construction. I wouldn't use them personally as a track day tyre. They are not very good for that IMO.

kiwi 911

^^^ - in short I think they suck............

PS2's or Cups's if you have 18's is the best combo IMHO.

Macca

Hi mate. Sorry I meant Graham not Graeme! Tho you both have surnames starting with the same letter!! Unless you've hit the wall there too?

The picture was taken from the first session of the day, purely the image was to show the wall not the line. This was a slow warm in session (you can see best lap time on frame). By end of day was consistently 6-7 seconds quicker was drifting further wide like you describe, picking up rear wheel traction just at the end of that chicane (could feel it tugging).

Here is a reference lap from later in the day. It shows peak speeds on segments around the track. It looks like that point of the track is around 115kmph? Im not sure as I really dont know how to read that screen. Im assuming with the tyre barrier removed Vmas may increase very fractionally (I would be trail braking into the Esses complex) and peak speed may fit in first half of esses complex from 82kmph to 87-90kmph. I dont expect exit point speed 114 to increase by more than 1-2kmph frankly. It would be nice to have some year on year Aim data from some of the race cars but as Pete says many variables change each time on the track...

Not long now mate and you will be at Targa!

Macca

Thanks for paraphrasing that Buba LOL!

Id elaborate and say:

PS2/PSS (220/300 UTQG) for road with itty bitty track (beginner/intermediate or someone taking it easy and occasionally a few times a year at most on track). Alternatively acceptable for a long tour with some tracks like SITT as one tyre solution.

MPSC2 (180 UTQG) for road and track equally (intermediate/fast or regular track work 5+ track days a year). Good tyre for road and track and works well for touring and track work (i.e. SITT) although life span will not be as great as above on road...

kiwi 911

^^^ Get to the point dude........... :-)

John McM

You have to pay to play.

996tnz

Yes, appreciated you illustrating what I was on about to those unfamiliar. I also don't think speeds would be much higher at that exit point, but by eliminating the earlier restrictive barrel that pretty much prefiltered cars into single file, I do expect a much wider variety of lines to be taken around that corner in race as people battle right through it door to door. That's a good thing, but just trust the engineer that did the armco got good grades...

Yep, here's my view of that spot, a little further along - towards the end of track out, with car still weighted to the right. On reviewing the video again, I notice the armco does slightly overlap the wall but it's still not my favourite corner as the racing line carries you close enough to read the sidewalls of those tyres, and almost within touching distance of the end of that concrete.

John McM

An even better approximation of Herman's new look

peterC2S

Now if the respray was red it would rock!

John McM

Heresy. I will put a red on white banner. That plus the calipers is all the red Herman needs.