Any Rennlisters from New Zealand?
I'll be taking it easy. No experience in torsion bar 911's. One thing I will enjoy though is a completely renewed mechanical package so I may be giving it a bit more than the '64 got. I would at some stage like to know the cars true potential to work up to that when the time is right. Anyone have any guesses? 230BHP in under 1100 kg's, Max tyre width of 205mm on 7" rims. I don't know for sure but I think Steve's little gulf car is 1.17's and not sure of the white RS rep but mine will be similar spec if just a tad heavier with full steel body and interior trim. It should be faster than a 964 roadie based on pure numbers but That depends on the advantages a '64 chassis, power and tyre patch offsets its extra weight.
Here's some more for ya mate with a few more mods.
My understanding is that if you make more mods, i.e. add bucket seats and adj camber plates then they add that to your plate. Note on one of these it even mentions "steering wheel". In your case the factory 3 spoke wheel wouldn't trigger this but a non factory wheel would. So your seats and more than likely if they are not OEM the brackets would need certifying.
Its legislation so technically there is no way around it hence why I take my 993 to the same places for WoF's etc to avoid any hassle.
The general idea was to provide "safer" cars due to boy racers bolting in a race seat with home made brackets or dropping in a 400hp rotor in their Datsun with no other mods and also so when you're doing burnouts in your 993 at 2am outside Johns house Mr Police can stop you and check if your car is certified... as well as doing you for sustained loss of traction.... if not then you get a pretty sticker for your windscreen.
So generally speaking we aren't the "target market" however I do wonder what would happen in the even of an accident. Although I do think this would only be an issue if the cause was due to a part that wasn't original or certified being the cause of or contributing to the accident.
My understanding is that if you make more mods, i.e. add bucket seats and adj camber plates then they add that to your plate. Note on one of these it even mentions "steering wheel". In your case the factory 3 spoke wheel wouldn't trigger this but a non factory wheel would. So your seats and more than likely if they are not OEM the brackets would need certifying.
Its legislation so technically there is no way around it hence why I take my 993 to the same places for WoF's etc to avoid any hassle.
The general idea was to provide "safer" cars due to boy racers bolting in a race seat with home made brackets or dropping in a 400hp rotor in their Datsun with no other mods and also so when you're doing burnouts in your 993 at 2am outside Johns house Mr Police can stop you and check if your car is certified... as well as doing you for sustained loss of traction.... if not then you get a pretty sticker for your windscreen.
So generally speaking we aren't the "target market" however I do wonder what would happen in the even of an accident. Although I do think this would only be an issue if the cause was due to a part that wasn't original or certified being the cause of or contributing to the accident.
Thanks Jamie. Looks like more legislative NZ PC drivel to me.
If Im not insured on public roads then it would be nice to know so I can stop paying my insurance premium and self insure.
What I dont understand is how a WOF can be issued if no VCC is present on a car like mine, Steve R, Chris B, Matt G, Paul M, yourself or any number of of us on here who may fall technically foul of the act on the basis we have aftermarket exhausts, headers, wheels, rear wings etc on our cars.
As far as Im aware and I cant say Ive studied it in detail, but mu insurer requires the car to be WOD'd and rego'd for cover. Maybe its in the fine print...
I see how its been designed to govern the young drifter community but passing such requirements into law has far further reaching implications.
Im pretty sure none of this existed (to anywhere near this extent) 8.5 years ago when I left NZ. But back then you could make a call while driving and smack your kids so it doesnt surprise me at all...
If Im not insured on public roads then it would be nice to know so I can stop paying my insurance premium and self insure.
What I dont understand is how a WOF can be issued if no VCC is present on a car like mine, Steve R, Chris B, Matt G, Paul M, yourself or any number of of us on here who may fall technically foul of the act on the basis we have aftermarket exhausts, headers, wheels, rear wings etc on our cars.
As far as Im aware and I cant say Ive studied it in detail, but mu insurer requires the car to be WOD'd and rego'd for cover. Maybe its in the fine print...
I see how its been designed to govern the young drifter community but passing such requirements into law has far further reaching implications.
Im pretty sure none of this existed (to anywhere near this extent) 8.5 years ago when I left NZ. But back then you could make a call while driving and smack your kids so it doesnt surprise me at all...
@Macca, everyone makes their own calls on risk. I'm happy to wear my mistake in a race if it comes to it. Less happy to bend over and say thanks so much should my insurance decline payout on road. If you think that car hire company policies were tough, you should try insurance companies. Happy with mine, but they all employ people to say no to as many claims as possible. Googling 'LVV threshold guide' is not hard and I'm sure insurance companies are capable of doing so too. It's a personal choice to stay below the LVV threshold for now as I hate bureaucracy, especially repetitive bureaucracy that wants to approve every change in ride height etc. As and when I do go the LVV route, I will likely jump in deep - but will try to do it in one hit.
Also, I average 10,000 kms a year in mine so our risk levels vary (though Targa is a grey area that may level that up - don't know exactly how technically road worthy they'd need the cars to be for insurance purposes).
Last edited by 996tnz; 07-12-2014 at 06:43 AM.
Walt. I dont trust the insurers either so I will but the question directly to the underwriters (Roger Scholes should beable to answer that) of Prestigio next week when Im back as Im driving with him on 20th. Love to get to the bottom of this. Given my drivetrain is now complete and there is little more to change on the suspension/interior/exterior side I could consider getting the LVV done if it is a real concern...
Walt. I dont trust the insurers either so I will but the question directly to the underwriters (Roger Scholes should beable to answer that) of Prestigio next week when Im back as Im driving with him on 20th. Love to get to the bottom of this. Given my drivetrain is now complete and there is little more to change on the suspension/interior/exterior side I could consider getting the LVV done if it is a real concern...
Walt. I did same. Provided them the bespoke brochure I had professionally produced for me in 2012 plus the previously posted list of 100 group component changes to the vehicle. They accepted this as part of the insurance but if what I'm hearing is correct the vehicle could be "illegal" on the road regardless of that a WOF and a Rego therefore they could still reneg the policy. Im happy to self insure if I have to as Ive only just started cover with prestigio a year ago otherwise being self insured on targa and track - I just want to know if Im wasting $1000 a year for a premium on a policy that can be contested...
Here's some more for ya mate with a few more mods. My understanding is that if you make more mods, i.e. add bucket seats and adj camber plates then they add that to your plate. Note on one of these it even mentions "steering wheel". In your case the factory 3 spoke wheel wouldn't trigger this but a non factory wheel would. So your seats and more than likely if they are not OEM the brackets would need certifying. Its legislation so technically there is no way around it hence why I take my 993 to the same places for WoF's etc to avoid any hassle. The general idea was to provide "safer" cars due to boy racers bolting in a race seat with home made brackets or dropping in a 400hp rotor in their Datsun with no other mods and also so when you're doing burnouts in your 993 at 2am outside Johns house Mr Police can stop you and check if your car is certified... as well as doing you for sustained loss of traction.... if not then you get a pretty sticker for your windscreen. So generally speaking we aren't the "target market" however I do wonder what would happen in the even of an accident. Although I do think this would only be an issue if the cause was due to a part that wasn't original or certified being the cause of or contributing to the accident.
Thanks Jamie. Looks like more legislative NZ PC drivel to me. If Im not insured on public roads then it would be nice to know so I can stop paying my insurance premium and self insure. What I dont understand is how a WOF can be issued if no VCC is present on a car like mine, Steve R, Chris B, Matt G, Paul M, yourself or any number of of us on here who may fall technically foul of the act on the basis we have aftermarket exhausts, headers, wheels, rear wings etc on our cars. As far as Im aware and I cant say Ive studied it in detail, but mu insurer requires the car to be WOD'd and rego'd for cover. Maybe its in the fine print... I see how its been designed to govern the young drifter community but passing such requirements into law has far further reaching implications. Im pretty sure none of this existed (to anywhere near this extent) 8.5 years ago when I left NZ. But back then you could make a call while driving and smack your kids so it doesnt surprise me at all...
Macca, you might prefer owning cars in California to fly in and drive every few months!