Any Rennlisters from New Zealand?
05-03-2015, 08:23 PM
Three Wheelin'
While I'm away think about left field solutions like breaking a car. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-882839585.htm
05-03-2015, 08:35 PM
Three Wheelin'
Macca resolving your conundrum is impossible. 3.9L 993 and keep forever? or more modern machinery. Might just have to be both. but with more agonizing and debate
05-03-2015, 09:20 PM
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Busted.
Rock up to Whangarei. Leave R parked in back of motel car park and someone at the Bank gives me a lift to work, not knowing what I drove here. All going well until I meet Shannon's mum at the Bank who asks which Porsche I brought. Busted.
Rock up to Whangarei. Leave R parked in back of motel car park and someone at the Bank gives me a lift to work, not knowing what I drove here. All going well until I meet Shannon's mum at the Bank who asks which Porsche I brought. Busted.
05-03-2015, 09:29 PM
Parting post on the weekend's RSG 2Kcup, then Targa's the focus with the Porsche. Few pics (cheers deepsea!) of the action in my race:
Hunted:
Working T9:
Racing Ray attacks:
Giving Ray the thumbs up:
OK, Honda spam over now...
Hunted:
Working T9:
Racing Ray attacks:
Giving Ray the thumbs up:
OK, Honda spam over now...
05-03-2015, 09:32 PM
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Graeme. You are right I'm afraid! Im so far down the rabbit hole on the 993 that when the engine needs a refresh it would seem rude not to go a little exotic for the extra cost it entails.
Walt. I'm impressed by your collection of cameras. I thought I had too many. Im not sure Id have your patience in setting them all up like that but Im sure its worth it after the event. Try "dashware" its free IIRC.
Nice fine Jamie. Cant argue with the value. In a decade these will seem very cheap at under 100K including spares Im sure...
Walt. I'm impressed by your collection of cameras. I thought I had too many. Im not sure Id have your patience in setting them all up like that but Im sure its worth it after the event. Try "dashware" its free IIRC.
Nice fine Jamie. Cant argue with the value. In a decade these will seem very cheap at under 100K including spares Im sure...
05-03-2015, 10:19 PM
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I fell in love again yesterday. After some adjustment for the nut behind the wheel it kept up with more modern machinery just fine.
Its quite a different experience than the modern GT3. Turn in is very quick, feedback through the wheel is better, overall grip is lower but you can feel the weight shift side to side and front to rear better through your bum which gives you the necessary information to trim your inputs. Overall "oomph" is very much lacking (torque and power is the weak point in the 964/993 for making any serious progress on a straight road), but throw in some tight twisties and with the chassis as I have it set up its as quick as the GT3 at least on no empirical observation.
The advantages of the older platform are the shorter wheelbase (smaller real estate) which makes it seem more chuckable and the quicker and more precise steering which make it seem more biddable. The downsiders are road noise, NVH (difficult to compare as the car has been much changed from standard) and lack of torque. The 6 speed G50 is great when warm but notchy when cold. Overall comfort and utilities favour the GT3 for longer journeys. The 993 feels a little lighter but not quite as much as expected which is where I think the power of the GT3 masks the difference. The perfect no budget upgrade for a 993 would be a 3.9L conversion with 380 bhp and 310lbft torque. With the existing upgraded chassis and brakes and weight reduction of my 993 I should think that would be enough to bridge the gap between the generations performance wise.
All in all very different experiences. Night and day really - probably as significant as driving a 1867 SWB 901 vs a 964/993 generation aircooled. Same characteristic differences on the + and - side of the ledger. For the full range of experience I suspect that the "working mans" combination would be 1972T/S, 964/993 C2, 997.2/991 GT3. This would give you the full range of generational development experience on tap. If money now object substitute 1973 RS, 964/993RS and 991 GT3RS for a heightened/elevated sense of occasion - albeit at a price tag of between $1,500,000-2,000,000 local scheckles.
Its quite a different experience than the modern GT3. Turn in is very quick, feedback through the wheel is better, overall grip is lower but you can feel the weight shift side to side and front to rear better through your bum which gives you the necessary information to trim your inputs. Overall "oomph" is very much lacking (torque and power is the weak point in the 964/993 for making any serious progress on a straight road), but throw in some tight twisties and with the chassis as I have it set up its as quick as the GT3 at least on no empirical observation.
The advantages of the older platform are the shorter wheelbase (smaller real estate) which makes it seem more chuckable and the quicker and more precise steering which make it seem more biddable. The downsiders are road noise, NVH (difficult to compare as the car has been much changed from standard) and lack of torque. The 6 speed G50 is great when warm but notchy when cold. Overall comfort and utilities favour the GT3 for longer journeys. The 993 feels a little lighter but not quite as much as expected which is where I think the power of the GT3 masks the difference. The perfect no budget upgrade for a 993 would be a 3.9L conversion with 380 bhp and 310lbft torque. With the existing upgraded chassis and brakes and weight reduction of my 993 I should think that would be enough to bridge the gap between the generations performance wise.
All in all very different experiences. Night and day really - probably as significant as driving a 1867 SWB 901 vs a 964/993 generation aircooled. Same characteristic differences on the + and - side of the ledger. For the full range of experience I suspect that the "working mans" combination would be 1972T/S, 964/993 C2, 997.2/991 GT3. This would give you the full range of generational development experience on tap. If money now object substitute 1973 RS, 964/993RS and 991 GT3RS for a heightened/elevated sense of occasion - albeit at a price tag of between $1,500,000-2,000,000 local scheckles.
It's long over due.
JMc - you must be a legend within the ANZ mate.
Make sure you take the young fella for a back-road spin and ignite a spark that will last for life...........
05-03-2015, 10:46 PM
Three Wheelin'
Better take a beat up BB next time
05-03-2015, 11:05 PM
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Lunchtime distractions.... nice looking 964 http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-883186545.htm
And Chris Harris has a new daily driver long termer- 991 GTS manual https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/drive...YIRMrzcDDfZ.97
05-03-2015, 11:18 PM
Three Wheelin'
We had the Ferrari Club making an outing to Whenuapai airbase on Sunday. Beautiful cars.
05-04-2015, 12:41 AM
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05-04-2015, 01:04 AM
Racer
Good to see you too Paul. Great day out and good to meet a few more of you others too. What dates are NITT?
Lunchtime distractions.... nice looking 964 http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-883186545.htm
And Chris Harris has a new daily driver long termer- 991 GTS manual https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/drive...YIRMrzcDDfZ.97
Lunchtime distractions.... nice looking 964 http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-883186545.htm
And Chris Harris has a new daily driver long termer- 991 GTS manual https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/drive...YIRMrzcDDfZ.97
05-04-2015, 01:08 AM
Racer
Good
And Chris Harris has a new daily driver long termer- 991 GTS manual https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/drive...YIRMrzcDDfZ.97
And Chris Harris has a new daily driver long termer- 991 GTS manual https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/drive...YIRMrzcDDfZ.97
05-04-2015, 01:24 AM
Racer
