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really clean, nice looking Vette....
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174
31.46%
a very different Vette but we'll sure as hell take it.
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165
29.84%
i'll be ordering one soon.......
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98
17.72%
No thank you
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116
20.98%
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Thoughts on the new corvette?
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I'll never own one (at least in the next 3-6 years or so) but I am very interested to see what it's going to do on the tracks / performance wise.
If I end up with a Vette anytime soon, it'll be a C5 (Always thought they were great styling and less "Hey look at me" for a Vette), simply so I can go with a good friend of mine and his wife to their Vette owners Club Drives and Events. C5 ZO6's are great values these days.
If I end up with a Vette anytime soon, it'll be a C5 (Always thought they were great styling and less "Hey look at me" for a Vette), simply so I can go with a good friend of mine and his wife to their Vette owners Club Drives and Events. C5 ZO6's are great values these days.
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well, to be fair, it would not have been a PDK. The gearbox is actually made by ZF, who of course sells to may OEMs besides Porsche, so really this is an non-story
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No I'm saying its probably a great value for what is costs which isn't much. However even at that great value it doesn't much interest me personally. It's my personal view on value for money. I should say I don't care for Pagannis and McClarens much either. Weirdly I really like the new Toyota Supra errr BMW... Just personal taste.
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It looks ok. Still too busy and too "Hot Wheels" and not in a good way. It's designed to appeal the NASCAR hillbilly redneck type who wear TapOut and Fox Racing and Monster Energy Drink clothing and who punch holes in drywall when they get angry. They're the ones sitting around drinking Coors with their buddies talking about how it'd be "like wicked ****in' cool to get a new Vette, I tell you whut!"
I'm sure they'll sell a ton of them. I'm sure it will be "fast." I'm sure I won't want one. Never have liked Corvettes or Camaros unless we're talking something classic/vintage. My cousin has two super nice classic Stingrays. And I'd love to own a '68 Camaro. But definitely not any of the newer ones.
I'm sure they'll sell a ton of them. I'm sure it will be "fast." I'm sure I won't want one. Never have liked Corvettes or Camaros unless we're talking something classic/vintage. My cousin has two super nice classic Stingrays. And I'd love to own a '68 Camaro. But definitely not any of the newer ones.
Well done, you proved my point. I'm glad some guys here told you what a tool you sound like.
What's bizarre is, I have owned both cars for years, and I have a masters degree, my college roommate has owned multiple vettes and he has a masters degree, a good friend of mine is a lifelong track driver and vette owner and he's an electrical engineer.
Jay Leno, is worth 100 million and he's a lifelong Porsche AND Corvette collector. Keep up the good work of making Porsche owners cringe while cleaning your Gucci loafers.
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The S/C had to have contributed to it. The upside of a S/C is it really feels like you have moar motor and no lag - the downside is it takes significant crank horsepower to drive the S/C - likely well over 100 HP, so the Z06 at 650HP usable output was likely producing over 750HP with a 750HP cooling load.
A turbo, on the other hand, will always have some lag and will introduce some exhaust back pressure, but the back pressure effect is pretty negligible and, for all intents and purposes, a turbo drives its compressor for free by scavenging energy that would have just gone out the exhaust. The other benefit of a turbo is it will not lose HP with altitude as the wastegate will compensate as the atmospheric pressure drops.
I'm still waiting for someone to try feeding a S/C motor with a turbo - it's been done on aircraft since WWII.
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A turbo, on the other hand, will always have some lag and will introduce some exhaust back pressure, but the back pressure effect is pretty negligible and, for all intents and purposes, a turbo drives its compressor for free by scavenging energy that would have just gone out the exhaust. The other benefit of a turbo is it will not lose HP with altitude as the wastegate will compensate as the atmospheric pressure drops.
I'm still waiting for someone to try feeding a S/C motor with a turbo - it's been done on aircraft since WWII.
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The S/C was causing overheating of the rear two cylinders leading to too much knock, and the car then pulling power. This was addressed in 2017(?) when GM raised the height of the S/C housing and tilted the back ends of the I/C ‘bricks’ up slightly to allow for more cooling. This then took care of that specific issue.
A secondary water radiator was installed for the M7 cars also in 2017 which essentially cured overheating on a road course during DE events; at least for those drivers who understand that this car is super easy to drive using it’s torque instead of constantly running it at Max rpms. Unfortunately the second water radiator was not an option for the A8 cars since a secondary transmission cooler was already mounted in that position.
Granted I always wished the car had been designed around a TT format, but the C7 was being designed around the time of the last economic meltdown and from all reports, development money was tight. Hence the cheap way to make tons of power being the S/C.
Regardless of it’s faults, the C7 Z is a really great DE car that for relatively cheap you can help run all session long and be extremely quick.
Really looking forward to seeing seeing what the high hp versions of this C8 bring to the table!
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I think at best its going to be more like the Alfa Guilia Quadrifolgio. If it ever actually goes into production, the initial response will be good.. because people want it to be.
Then reality will settle in and all the excitement will burn off and it'll go from "wow what a car, they got this one right" to "whoa! too many problems, run away don't buy!"
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Porsche had pushed the MSRP ceiling too much IMO. Keep raising prices and giving you less for it while becoming watered down. They've ridden the economic boom, but will bite them in the *** sooner than later. The competitors are catching up in all categories with better values.
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Reality is, Porsche's are like 25% more expensive than they should be just due to inflated German manufacturing costs (labor unions) and the profit margins Porsche shoots for. They're getting it, and that's fine as I support a capitalist economy, but that same economy also fosters competition and consumers have choices.
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I think that with serious supercar looks that it now has, I will be interested in the next few years. The current C7 was just odd and caricatural looking.
Now that vette will definitely hurt NSX, R8 and others sales. Very dissapointed that they didn't bring back the round tail lights, which was the biggest mistake they made on the C7. But hey!!! It is what it is.
Now that vette will definitely hurt NSX, R8 and others sales. Very dissapointed that they didn't bring back the round tail lights, which was the biggest mistake they made on the C7. But hey!!! It is what it is.
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Originally Posted by 9914s
Well try posting a thread about a GT3 on corvette forums and see what happens.
Well it's interesting what other off topic brand and subject threads do stick around here though, take your pick. Yet the C8 one doesn't last a day. The action speaks for itself. Selective policing ...