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really clean, nice looking Vette....
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a very different Vette but we'll sure as hell take it.
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i'll be ordering one soon.......
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ace37
There's a (short) list here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twincharger
Thanks. I'd never heard it called a "Twincharger" before.

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Old 07-21-2019, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
I am 6-4 and fit great into my C7 Z51. With my FIA-spec helmet, however, I would love about 1" more headroom. It's right...
Originally Posted by mdrums
What is your inseam? Maybe shorter legs and longer torso? Wasn't even close for me to get in.
I'm a little over 6'2" and while I can "fit" in a C7, it certainly isn't comfortable for a long drive where I want plenty of leg room. In my 981 BS, I can stretch my legs straight out and extend my toes out with a calf extension while on long drives, granted with my toes up near where the steering shaft makes its way through the bulkhead. Maybe for track use a C7 would work, but I've never tried it.
Old 07-21-2019, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mdrums
What is your inseam? Maybe shorter legs and longer torso? Wasn't even close for me to get in.
5'7" guy here, and this is key. I have to run a very tall seat to get proper shoulder belt placement because I have a long torso and short legs. Where your height is matters as much as the total quantity.

I also typically brush the headliner on cars - all the hassles of being a six footer with the "benefits" of being 5'7" .

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Old 07-21-2019, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by okie981
Wasn't aware this will be Chevy's first vehicle to utilize full CAN bus architecture, and hadn't heard about the rear hatch glass cracking with high-horsepower model testing.
Interesting on the rear glass cracking. I thought there had been a number of reports on Rennlist regarding the GT3 RS cracking the rear Gorilla glass.
Old 07-21-2019, 10:11 AM
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My favorite "Corvette Engine" story:

The Corvette C7.R made its racing debut at the 24 Hours of Daytona in January. Despite the advantages that the new and improved C7.R brings, Corvette Racing’s two cars finished fifth and tenth in the GTLM class at Daytona and will be hoping for a better result in the second race of the 2014 TUDOR United Sports Car Championship, the 12 Hours of Sebring.

One of the main advantages that the C7.R has over the rest of the pack is the pushrod design of its 5.5 liter V8 engine. As Corvette Racing program manager Doug Fehan told Car and Driver, pushrods allow for a smaller, simpler engine package, which in turn reduces weight and keeps the center of gravity of the engine low.

“I rue the day we would ever have to go to overhead cams. Bigger, heavier, giant heads. Cams in head, higher center of gravity, bigger package, in most cases more weight. All the additional parts like chains, pulleys, and gears—you just increase the opportunity for things to go wrong. Fuel-efficiency and emissions standards may at some point cause us to have to go that way, but when you look at the size and weight of our C7.R package, plus its power and reliability, there’s nothing that beats a two-valve engine,” Fehan said.

I sit on several FIA engine councils and it always comes up from our competitors. Whether it’s Porsche, Ferrari, or Aston Martin, they’re always complaining about what they perceive of as the advantages the two-valve engine has [over] their [designs], and want the two-valve engine penalized, said Fehan. “To that I say, ‘go back to the road car—if the two-valve engine is that much better for racing you ought to put it in your car.’ To which they have no answer.”

Corvette Racing might have some more complaints to deal with if it gets the finish it’s hoping for at the 12 Hours of Sebring on March 15.
Read more: http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/02/...#ixzz5uJiI1PBl
Old 07-21-2019, 10:12 AM
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Wow, another C8 RL thread. I lost count at 7. Probably nothin’... Who’d want a new $70k, 500hp, midengine V8, DCT, coilover car with warranty that you can flog at the track, drive back home, and take it to any Chevy dealer for maintenance at Chevy parts/labor cost, anyway?
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Old 07-21-2019, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 6sigma
Because they lost sight of their brand identity. I have had 2 CTS-Vs - a gen2 556hp manual sedan and a 640-hp gen3 sedan. Very fast cars, but they should not be Cadillacs. They tried (are trying?) to be BMW and it isn't working. They should be unabashedly American luxury. Big cars, high end luxury and style, comfortable cruisers with modern capable handling but NOT focused performance cars. Yes they should have a small block V8 option but not to be a track star. That's why Escalade is so popular - it is the most Cadillac-like Cadillac. The CT6 with the V8 is a great way forward, and it is on death watch.
If they continued to do what you said they would be selling even less cars so they had no choice. I do agree with the "Schlade" comment though albeit the Navigator is catching up fast for having even more luxury.
Old 07-21-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by wizee
It’ll beat the 718 GT4 manual version 0-60, and beat the PDK version 0-60 MPH by a lesser margin.

The Vette weighs 3366 lbs dry, so it probably weights around 3550-3600 wet (the way Porsche measures it). That’s 400+ lbs heavier than the GT4, or about 13%+ heavier than the GT4. That negates most of the horsepower advantage, and more so given historically German horses have been inexplicably stronger than American ones

I’d expect the PDK 718 GT4 to be just as quick or quicker than the Vette in longer acceleration runs like a 1/4 mile or accelerating through straights on track.

Will the Vette chassis be as agile, balanced, and well sorted as the GT4? I doubt that too.

The new Vette is great value for the money, but saying it’ll run circles around the GT4 is a stretch. It’s just geared for good 0-60 times.
Since the weights are all over the place, the best way to evaluate cars is by performance: straight line and track. We already know that the C8 has an incredible 0 - 60 time, and I expect the same for the 1/4 mile. So let's see what the times will be on various tracks around the world. The Porsche brand enables them to charge a premium for their cars, but their pricing will be tested if a far less expensive car is just as fast if not faster.
Old 07-21-2019, 10:31 AM
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They all look to be from the same family.




Old 07-21-2019, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ekam
That was the most useless video coming from Jay. There's no actual discussion of specs other than the basics like horsepower and price which we already know. The "engineer" was explaining the mid engine configuration to Jay as if it's something he has no clue of.

Stark contrast to the Carfection GT4 video with Andreas Preuninger where he kept dishing out information and research Porsche had done to improve the car.
Since I knew absolutely nothing about the C8, other than rumors, I found the Leno video to be informative. The C8 is not yet in production and is still being sorted out to hopefully identify any problem areas before production which is scheduled to begin in November or at the latest, December. The purpose of this video was to introduce the car to the public, much like a car salesman would. I expect that Leno will do a comprehensive review, shortly after the car goes into production.
Old 07-21-2019, 10:42 AM
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I am definitely seeing a lot of love for the c8 around here. I’d say 80/20 in favor of it.
Old 07-21-2019, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom R.
Is the Vette priced to be a loss leader? Or is this one small step for GM, one giant leap for the industry.
Maybe GM isn't planning to make over $30K+ profit on each car as Porsche does.
Old 07-21-2019, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by n3rd
718 GT4 Pricing makes no sense compared to this. I'm waiting for the Z06 so the bugs can get worked out. I'll bet the Z06 costs less than the base price of the new GT4.
FWIW, rumor is that the C8 Z06 will be priced $20K more than the base C8. So a decently optioned Z06 should be in the upper $80Ks, low $90Ks which is incredible for a 700 HP car.
Old 07-21-2019, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Chester7
Weight is where cost comes into play. Keeping the price lower means allowing a bit more weight. So intriguing. If the C8 is fast but requires great skill or guts to drive fast, its not for me. That was a primary reason I selected a 718 over a 911.
I would imagine that a good part of the weight difference is because of the difference in the size of the engines: 3.8L vs 6.2L.
Old 07-21-2019, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by snake eyes
It’s going to smoke a 991.1 GT3 on the track and drag strip
it will match if not beat a 991.2 S on the drag strip and destroy it on the track.

speaking of which gasp a 991.2S with the sport package and sport chrono is faster than a GT3 991.1 on some tracks.
motortrend recorded a faster Tim for instance at willow springs
If I were Porsche I would be nervous about 992 sales...

the 992 is not really much better than 991.2
these are the facts if it as good as the outgoing grandsport and has more horsepower
I think Porsche should be worried about the GT4 and Spyder sales as well. Same engine set up and the Vette cost way less. Looks like it will be faster too in a straight line.


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