718 GT4?
04-21-2018 | 09:42 PM
#1246
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If a Cayman R shows up would that mean the GT4 will still be on top of the pile and would that be confirmation then a turbo 6 is in order for the GT4? And also a Cayman R kind of does not make sense anymore because once the cars go turbocharged the hierarchy gets a bit muddled no? I mean a 3 liter turbo 6 can easily push 500 hp. So what would that entail for the GT4 then if that 3 Liter motor goes in the R? I don't think that makes sense but either way time will tell.
04-21-2018 | 09:55 PM
#1247
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The Cayman R was the GT4 before the GT4 was a thing. It wasn't as big of a departure at the time (+10HP from the Cayman S, some lightening bits and aero). If a Cayman R comes, I wouldn't expect to see a GT4 as there wouldn't really be room for both. I'd be shocked if this happened and they didn't release a GT4 based on new naming convention. I think Autocar is heavily speculating based on sound clips and forum discussion. 414HP is very arbitrary. If they were going to follow the GT4 model, it should come in right at 400.
04-22-2018 | 12:33 AM
#1248
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The Cayman R was the GT4 before the GT4 was a thing. It wasn't as big of a departure at the time (+10HP from the Cayman S, some lightening bits and aero). If a Cayman R comes, I wouldn't expect to see a GT4 as there wouldn't really be room for both. It wouldn't make sense to for Porsche to release an R and GT4 because the R would have to slot in lower meaning it could cannibalize GTS sales, especially if it was an F6T. I'd be shocked if this happened and they didn't release a GT4 based on new naming convention. I think Autocar is heavily speculating based on sound clips and forum discussion. 414HP is very arbitrary. If they were going to follow the 981 GT4 model, it should come in right at 400.
04-22-2018 | 12:44 AM
#1249
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The first picture leak of the M2 Competition was by a member on bimmerpost. The first leak of a picture of an M3 CS, it’s specific release schedule, special paint was also by a member on bimmerpost. The specifics of the car was also first leaked by a member on bimmerpost. Similarly, the status of the M2 CSL was also leaked on bimmerpost. A lot of articles were based on these leaks and not the other way around.
I would rather believe someone who’s known to have leaked correct information in the past such as whoopsy than some article on some auto magazine.
04-22-2018 | 01:16 AM
#1250
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i understand porsche is having so much trouble selling 718 models
i would not be surprised if they do all kinds of variants to boost sales... i suspect product managers for 718 are in panic mode
i would not be surprised if they do all kinds of variants to boost sales... i suspect product managers for 718 are in panic mode
04-22-2018 | 04:46 AM
#1251
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That has been my argument for a 4-cyl in GT4/Spyder all the time. Imagine the PR nightmare after they spent millions trying to convince customers how fantastic the 4-cyl is - and then putting a 6-cyl in the top-of-the-line model...
04-22-2018 | 05:22 AM
#1252
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This is what I’ve always thought too, but just don’t know if the majority of buyers will care!
04-22-2018 | 07:36 AM
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I have seen first hand that most of these magazines do not have access to any inside information. It’s a wiser bet to rely on what you learn from certain members on online forums than what is published in most auto magazines.
The first picture leak of the M2 Competition was by a member on bimmerpost. The first leak of a picture of an M3 CS, it’s specific release schedule, special paint was also by a member on bimmerpost. The specifics of the car was also first leaked by a member on bimmerpost. Similarly, the status of the M2 CSL was also leaked on bimmerpost. A lot of articles were based on these leaks and not the other way around.
I would rather believe someone who’s known to have leaked correct information in the past such as whoopsy than some article on some auto magazine.
We should have the answer here shortly, as a bunch of folks have been at Wessaich the past few days. One already mentioned the GT4 would be a MY2020 car and have the option of PDK. No engine comments though.
Last edited by Five12Free; 04-22-2018 at 10:19 PM.
04-22-2018 | 09:09 AM
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04-22-2018 | 09:16 AM
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04-22-2018 | 09:42 AM
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Gatte and I are (soon to be?) expats from the BMW world. If I read into his posts over there correctly, we are in the same boat of N/A or bust. Bring on the news!
Great info. Thanks!
Last edited by blackholescion; 04-22-2018 at 10:01 AM.
04-22-2018 | 10:32 AM
#1257
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Most here are current or former BMW (at least re their ‘sports’ cars) guys.
04-22-2018 | 09:19 PM
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Whoever posted all that is still a bimmerpost member.
I will be on one of the following boats:
1, GT4 if it ends up being a NA,
2, M2 GTS/CSL otherwise.
Last edited by Gatte; 04-22-2018 at 09:44 PM.
04-23-2018 | 01:00 PM
#1260
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