Ooof. That's not what I was hoping to read on the fix.

The long distance trips is one of the reasons why I bought a CD. It's a great place to much road miles and the fuel economy is terrific.

Downhill breaking is key in gnarly icy and snowy conditions. That's ****ty it's being removed.

Same with the sport shifting. While it's no DSG, it is nice and I have been enjoying that feature in the short time I've owned my CD.

That's kind of where I stand; hard to pass on all that, even if things are, erm... neutered a bit.

I like that plan. That's my preliminary thought right now. After all, I'm still under the original factory five year warranty.

 

And who knows. If VW is not able to reach the 85% participatory threshold, they may have to come back to us with more goodies.

Oops I meant to quote the idea of doing nothing during the extra two years of extended warranty before applying the fix

 

You mean original four year warranty (4/50K), now six (6/100K).

It's about what I expected. And to answer a previous post, I suspect the comparison numbers are baselined off the original spec/certification numbers, not real world, anecdotal numbers.

For example, Omni reports 22-23 mpg while pulling a load. I got that while loaded up and carrying 2 bikes on a hitch rack, but not pulling a mobile wind break, so either one of us is doing math wrong or these vehicles have quite a bit of variance in real world performance. Note: my numbers are based on hand calculations, not what the computer says. Oh, and I was averaging 80ish mph...

As for the automatic engine braking, I didn't even know it was there. Just means you'll now have to have some finesse on the brakes. And if you don't, the ABS is pretty damn good. I'm not overly concerned about this change.

Engine noise when warming up. I wonder if it'll clatter like a diesel now, rather than being much more like a gas engine in sound?

And the **** patters during warmup? Sounds like it'll be in Sport Mode for warm up! Of course, while it might emit less NOx because of running at higher RPMs, it certainly seems like it'd be a wash in the end, since spinning the engine faster will require more fuel overall, therefore emitting more pollutants....

But they say it'll only cost "up to" 1 mpg. So maybe not.

No, these aren't sports cars, but the Sport mode does help in lots of situations, so I hope it's not too subdued.

It'll be interesting to see some dyno numbers of "fixed" vehicles.

 

The Bosch settlement is not tied to the fix. They left wording in on how/when they pay out, but there are no requirements from our end to qualify.

For me ~$3500 isn't enough to accept significantly (based on why I bought it and how I use it) changing the vehicle. To say that there is no performance impact and then to tell us that the shifting patterns (which are directly related to performance) are changing says that they are being very careful with their language and using very specific meanings of words (e.g. "performance" is probably referring only to engine output at the crank and not at the wheels or any potential torque curve changes).

I also believe that 1mpg change as much as I believe all the EPA MPG ratings.

The only thing they are being held to is what it is represented as. So in this case we are talking 25/29 to 24/28. Those that regularly see much higher values, however, may (I would almost bet on it) see a much more significant drop.

As long as you still meet the new adjusted numbers, however, there is bubkiss you can do about it. Even if you do fall below the numbers they'll use the same "driving pattern" excuses that they do in normal circumstances.

 

Yes, there is no info on hp and torque changes. Give us factual numbers rather than lawyer English talk

 

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so is the long block actually covered, or are they saying that its still part of the original long block warranty?

Once the updated emissions control system software has been installed in your
vehicle, Porsche will extend your Emissions Control Systems Warranty for certain
emissions-related components. For the following 3.0 L diesel engine vehicles
repaired by the emissions modification recall, a warranty extension is applicable
as defined below

"Additionally, the engine long block warranty shall cover the engine sub-assembly
that consists of the assembled block, crankshaft, cylinder head, camshaft, and
valve train"

Its added in there at the end, but doesn't really specify if its part of the emmissions control warranty or if its a warning that its not part of it.

 

As I understand it, they included the engine long block as a part of the warranty extension.

 

Pardon my ignorance, but the long block assembly is block, pistons, crankshaft, seals, etc...the entire bottom end?

 

I routinely do the "math" in addition to monitoring the DIC (drives my wife nuts when I whip out the calculator app at every fill up). My DIC is usually about .7 optimistic. But yes, 22-23 average when towing by "math". Trailer is ~1100lbs, car probably right around 3000. When I tow I do the speed limit (65). Note I'm also in the Midwest, so it's FLAT out here. No hills. I live out in the country, and most of the racetracks are also in the country... so within ~2 miles I'm out of my subdivision and doing 65 with cruise set.

I've always been able to beat EPA numbers. I tend to drive pretty gently most of the time, and am almost always running cruise control outside of stop-and-go. So I suppose it's fair to offer up, "Your mileage may vary".

 

That's usually the definition of longblock. IMO I usually consider "longblock" to include the top end, too (heads/cams/etc.) If it's just the bottom end w/crank, rods, pistons, I've always considered that the "shortblock".

 

S'ok. The notice reads " . . . the engine long block warranty shall cover the engine sub-assembly that consists of the assembled block, crankshaft, cylinder head, camshaft, and valve train."

 

After reading about the proposed fix for the '14 CD, I'm bummed. It seems a bit more than we all anticipated and will likely impact a few aspects of our Cayennes that we all enjoy.

With all things; time will tell.

 

So, is consensus to enjoy the additional two years "CPO" Porsche courtesy warranty before doing all these modifications and collecting the second portion of the cash settlement?

 

I didn't read the 2.2 doc, but with the exception of the engine braking it seems to fit about what most of us expected to see (e.g. reduced mpg, increased AdBlue, etc..). The shifting pattern changes don't even surprise me (though I would have expected them to the normal mode rather than Sport).

Yes I think PJ has the right of it. If you are going to let them "fix" your vehicle, plan it so that you do it as soon as possible after your current coverage runs out.