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Old 12-01-2020 | 01:42 PM
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Irish Guitar is crazy for selling this car. Going to need a huge bag of dough for PTS 4.0!
that Vivian's? she should keep it, as should every 4L owner
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that Vivian's? she should keep it, as should every 4L owner
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Old 12-01-2020 | 02:18 PM
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Yes, I think Irish Guitar is Vivian, no?
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Yes, I think Irish Guitar is Vivian, no?
It is. But in Ireland that's a dude's name.
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Old 12-01-2020 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
Interested to see what this one goes for. Unfortunate about the accident and 2 other damage situations on the car, but ultimately, great on the owner for documenting everything properly. This would make a great car to load miles onto and then eventually send to Sharkwerks for a 3.9 rebuild.

This may be one of the 997 GT3's that does well on BAT, given that it should sell somewhere in the $60-70k range which means someone can get into a 997 GT3 that may normally be shopping other cars.
I viewed this car yesterday in person. It is as described, a perfect driver. I was thinking I'd be a buyer at mid-high 60's but someone put in a 67K bid yesterday evening. Perhaps the high bidder just put out thier max bid and is hoping for the best? I was really surprised to see that high of a bid with this much time left.

I'd think a buyer would have to be nuts to pay north of 75K for this? Maybe I am missing something...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-11/

Old 12-01-2020 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by switchcars
It is. But in Ireland that's a dude's name.
serious? wow, learn something new everyday!
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I don't know. The car looks very well kept for the miles driven. Porsche don't like to sit and the maintenance history is great. These cars are becoming more scarce everyday and prices keep moving up. 997 GT3's are the true last analog GT. Everything after has increased in size and have become very electronically controlled, depriving the driver of that connection to the road.
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Old 12-01-2020 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Therosser77
I viewed this car yesterday in person. It is as described, a perfect driver. I was thinking I'd be a buyer at mid-high 60's but someone put in a 67K bid yesterday evening. Perhaps the high bidder just put out thier max bid and is hoping for the best? I was really surprised to see that high of a bid with this much time left.

I'd think a buyer would have to be nuts to pay north of 75K for this? Maybe I am missing something...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-11/
If the car was Silver/White then I think it would go for 60-65k with the miles. However, the car is yellow which commands anywhere from a 10-20k premium so it really depends how badly someone wants the color.
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I don't know. The car looks very well kept for the miles driven. Porsche don't like to sit and the maintenance history is great. These cars are becoming more scarce everyday and prices keep moving up. 997 GT3's are the true last analog GT. Everything after has increased in size and have become very electronically controlled, depriving the driver of that connection to the road.
Can't argue that. Just looking at other recent sales of lower mile non-accident cars in the 80K range, makes me think twice.

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If the car was Silver/White then I think it would go for 60-65k with the miles. However, the car is yellow which commands anywhere from a 10-20k premium so it really depends how badly someone wants the color.
Ah, yes that does make sense! Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Therosser77
I viewed this car yesterday in person. It is as described, a perfect driver. I was thinking I'd be a buyer at mid-high 60's but someone put in a 67K bid yesterday evening. Perhaps the high bidder just put out thier max bid and is hoping for the best? I was really surprised to see that high of a bid with this much time left.

I'd think a buyer would have to be nuts to pay north of 75K for this? Maybe I am missing something...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-11/
Thanks for the detail. Great to hear that it is as represented.

Seller has been very active in the auction, which is good and seems to have done everything that he should. He drove the car, he maintained the car, he had a couple issues (damage and accident, one being no fault of his) and then documented it properly to give the next buyer confidence of what they're getting. I do think that should help and is worth something. An undocumented reason for paint work and a documented reason for paint work should have varying price differences. While it is currently at $67k, it may only have a bit more to go near the end of the auction. There was the red 997.1 GT3 on BAT a couple of weeks ago that had a bid early on for $90k and then only went up an additional $1500 at the end. Friend of mine put a bid in on an E46 M3 early on, which was basically his best offer, 5 days later, no one bid and he won the car, granted that was ending on a holiday, but still.

These higher mileage GT3's and lower mileage GT3's are always a bit more difficult to price. How much of a value add is low miles and how much of a value depreciation is higher miles. That really comes down to the individual buyer. You could have someone looking to buy a 997.2 C2S and now they can get into a GT3 for maybe $5k more than a nice 997.2 C2S. Or you could get someone wanting to spend $80k on a GT3 but is willing to get a car with more miles and save $10k. The average cars with average miles, average condition, average history, are always the easiest to price and have a pretty set price, but these can go either way. They can go for a lot, or a little. But I think people should embrace a car with some miles as it was actually used as a car and as it should be. As long as documentation is included.

I hope the seller gets a solid number and I hope the buyer continues to drive and enjoy.
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Thanks for the detail. Great to hear that it is as represented.

Seller has been very active in the auction, which is good and seems to have done everything that he should. He drove the car, he maintained the car, he had a couple issues (damage and accident, one being no fault of his) and then documented it properly to give the next buyer confidence of what they're getting. I do think that should help and is worth something. An undocumented reason for paint work and a documented reason for paint work should have varying price differences. While it is currently at $67k, it may only have a bit more to go near the end of the auction. There was the red 997.1 GT3 on BAT a couple of weeks ago that had a bid early on for $90k and then only went up an additional $1500 at the end. Friend of mine put a bid in on an E46 M3 early on, which was basically his best offer, 5 days later, no one bid and he won the car, granted that was ending on a holiday, but still.

These higher mileage GT3's and lower mileage GT3's are always a bit more difficult to price. How much of a value add is low miles and how much of a value depreciation is higher miles. That really comes down to the individual buyer. You could have someone looking to buy a 997.2 C2S and now they can get into a GT3 for maybe $5k more than a nice 997.2 C2S. Or you could get someone wanting to spend $80k on a GT3 but is willing to get a car with more miles and save $10k. The average cars with average miles, average condition, average history, are always the easiest to price and have a pretty set price, but these can go either way. They can go for a lot, or a little. But I think people should embrace a car with some miles as it was actually used as a car and as it should be. As long as documentation is included.

I hope the seller gets a solid number and I hope the buyer continues to drive and enjoy.
Well Said!
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Originally Posted by Therosser77
I viewed this car yesterday in person. It is as described, a perfect driver. I was thinking I'd be a buyer at mid-high 60's but someone put in a 67K bid yesterday evening. Perhaps the high bidder just put out thier max bid and is hoping for the best? I was really surprised to see that high of a bid with this much time left.

I'd think a buyer would have to be nuts to pay north of 75K for this? Maybe I am missing something...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-11/
Agreed, was looking at placing a bid upper 60s to maybe 70. Looks to be going much higher by closing time...

The search continues.

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Agreed, was looking at placing a bid upper 60s to maybe 70s Looks to be going much higher by closing time...

The search continues.
I wouldn't necessarily let that keep you from bidding. Bid until you no longer feel comfortable with the purchase. I'm thinking many others may feel similar, where they think the person with the $67k bid is in it to win, whereas that really could be their highest bid they're willing to place. If everyone didn't want to bid anymore, that will mean the auction will end at the $67k. I am guessing this will go for very low $70s, with how it is currently priced.
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I wouldn't necessarily let that keep you from bidding. Bid until you no longer feel comfortable with the purchase. I'm thinking many others may feel similar, where they think the person with the $67k bid is in it to win, whereas that really could be their highest bid they're willing to place. If everyone didn't want to bid anymore, that will mean the auction will end at the $67k. I am guessing this will go for very low $70s, with how it is currently priced.
67k plus fee’s, it’s quickly approaching no-mans land.


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