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Old 11-24-2020 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by enve46
This is what excites me about my search for a 997 GT3. And thank you Robocop305 for reaching out to share his information on cars he's seen

Honestly, the search for the right car was fun in the beginning but its becoming very frustrating. After my E90 M3 sale, Ive been chasing something as exhilarating and visceral and I thought the 991.1 S in the right color would fix that, but I was wrong. Its VERY encouraging to hear you guys speak of the love you have for this chassis. I want a car Im hooked on. One that excites me on every start. Seems I may be headed in the right direction
Having owned a e92 M3 I can completely relate to what you're saying. I've gone through several 911s in my quest to top that visceral feeling and my GT3 was the car that finally did that for me.
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Old 11-24-2020 | 01:26 PM
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I had the same experience with the 981 2016 GT4. I had been so accustomed to the torque pull of my (20 years older!!!) 964 Turbo, that the 981 GT4 felt anemic. Sure it had the allure of the 3rd peddle, exhaust note, and since I am still no expert at heel/toe, the auto-rev-match made me feel like a pro,... but once I drove the 997 GT3, it ALL MADE SENSE. Clear winner. It became OBVIOUS.

Having said that, I've now often wondered how the 718 GT4 might fair in that same comparison, since the HP is now creeping up towards our 997GT3 range,... and thus wondered if Porsche has still "toned down" the 718 GT4 in comparison to the GT3's (especially against the Mezger, which has now truly won my heart & soul),....

.... To stay true to this "For Sale" thread,... I'll thrown this one back into the archives,... since it now says they are "under contract" for completed sale. This one was right down the road from me....

https://www.amkoauto.com/auto/used-2...f-md/31524888/

2011 GT3 RS Gray / Red / Black ; LWBS ; Steelies ; PCM3.0-NAV ; Full Leather
VIN WP0AC2A98BS783077
Asking Price: $169K
Mileage: 8,224 (even though their listing shows the older mileage of 7,188,... the pictures show 8,224)
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Old 11-24-2020 | 01:29 PM
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A couple of years ago I sold my 2009 Carrera S PDK. It was a real nice car and I had it very sorted out to include factory GT2 carbon seats, Tubi exhaust, etc.. All hell broke loose when I purchased a 2008 Lotus Elise SC, the rawness of the Lotus, no power assist steering, 6 speed manual and lightness change my entire perspective about cars. I literally stopped using the Porsche and ended up selling it. I wanted to experience another light and raw car and I ended adding to my garage a 2018 Alfa Rome 4C. The 4C is an amazing machine that's fast with a proper tune. The car felt very good and involved but I finally realized that I'm a 3 pedal guy. I promised to myself that the only car that I would trade the 4C for would be a 997 GT3. A few weeks ago I decide to sell my 4C to start the hunt for a 997 GT3. Well, I'm waiting for the transport company to deliver my baby today. As I got older, I started to realize that car don't have to be the fastest or with the most HP. Today, I'm all about total driver's involvement and the connection to the road. This brings me to the perfect car.......The 997 GT3!!!!!!

I think I'm done for now with my GT3 and the Lotus. They don't make analog cars like these anymore. New cars today are full of electronics and drivers assist that diminishes the connection to the road.

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Old 11-24-2020 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Robocop305
A couple of years ago I sold my 2009 Carrera S PDK. It was a real nice car and I had it very sorted out to include factory GT2 carbon seats, Tubi exhaust, etc.. All hell broke loose when I purchased a 2008 Lotus Elise SC, the rawness of the Lotus, no power assist steering, 6 speed manual and lightness change my entire perspective about cars. I literally stopped using the Porsche and ended up selling it. I wanted to experience another light and raw car and I ended adding to my garage a 2018 Alfa Rome 4C. The 4C is an amazing machine that's fast with a proper tune. The car felt very good and involved but I finally realized that I'm a 3 pedal guy. I promised to myself that the only car that I would trade the 4C for would be a 997 GT3. A few weeks ago I decide to sell my 4C to start the hunt for a 997 GT3. Well, I'm waiting for the transport company to deliver my baby today. As I got older, I started to realize that car don't have to be the fastest or with the most HP. Today, I'm all about total driver's involvement and the connection to the road. This brings me to the perfect car.......The 997 GT3!!!!!!

I think I'm done for now with my GT3 and the Lotus. They don't make analog cars like these anymore. New cars today are full of electronics and drivers assist that diminishes the connection to the road.
The C2S PDK to GT3 path was mine as well. I was fortunate enough to be able to experience a .2 Turbo PDK quite a bit that a friend had in the year prior to purchasing my 997.2 C2S, which along with other circumstances (health related) at the time, led me to purchase a PDK. When I got it, after about a week, I was pretty underwhelmed. It was a very scary feeling having just spend substantial money on something that I didn't really enjoy driving. I sold it a year later due to other issues with the car itself (fully disclosed to the dealer taking it in) and was fortunate enough to be able to have a friend hand me the keys to his 997.1 GT3. I could go into an hour long (or multiple paragraph) story about my 2 hour long drive in that car on a Sunday, but it was the most amazing driving experience I had ever had. Later ended up buying that exact car when the owner was ready to sell.
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Old 11-25-2020 | 03:59 PM
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2007 GT3. Arctic Silver. Adaptive sport seats. 19k miles. Looks like a pretty clean car, can't tell if there is clear film on the front of it or not. WP0AC29977S792641

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Old 11-25-2020 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
2007 GT3. Arctic Silver. Adaptive sport seats. 19k miles. Looks like a pretty clean car, can't tell if there is clear film on the front of it or not. WP0AC29977S792641

https://www.motorcars-intl.com/vehic...bdc0a9fc812e4d
Looks like a nice example. One thing I noticed is it doesn't have the headlight washers. Was it a factory option to delete them? I had thought they came on all 997.1 GT3's.
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Originally Posted by 405
Looks like a nice example. One thing I noticed is it doesn't have the headlight washers. Was it a factory option to delete them? I had thought they came on all 997.1 GT3's.
As far as I know, it was not an option to delete, however, Porsche lists a part number for GT3 bumpers both with and without headlamp washers. My guess is that certain markets received them standard, some didn't, some had the option to delete, etc.

However, my concern with not having them is why it doesn't have them. My guess is somewhere along the way they resprayed the front bumper and they decided to fill them. Or someone ordered the bumper that does not include headlamp washer cutouts. Either way, it means there is a wuestion about what caused either a bumper replacement or repaint. A paint meter on the front of the car would be a good idea at the least (of course on the bumper you will be unable to get a reading, unless you have a $3k meter). If you Google the VIN, there is some information out there on the previous owner, so someone could probably reach out if they felt comfortable and were very interested in the car to know why it was replaced/filled. You may also want to see if the normal divots for license plate holes is there on the front, which all 997.1 GT3's had. They aren't actual drill marks, but just round circles that are in the bumper itself where a license plate would drill.
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Old 11-25-2020 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
As far as I know, it was not an option to delete, however, Porsche lists a part number for GT3 bumpers both with and without headlamp washers. My guess is that certain markets received them standard, some didn't, some had the option to delete, etc.

However, my concern with not having them is why it doesn't have them. My guess is somewhere along the way they resprayed the front bumper and they decided to fill them. Or someone ordered the bumper that does not include headlamp washer cutouts. Either way, it means there is a wuestion about what caused either a bumper replacement or repaint. A paint meter on the front of the car would be a good idea at the least (of course on the bumper you will be unable to get a reading, unless you have a $3k meter). If you Google the VIN, there is some information out there on the previous owner, so someone could probably reach out if they felt comfortable and were very interested in the car to know why it was replaced/filled. You may also want to see if the normal divots for license plate holes is there on the front, which all 997.1 GT3's had. They aren't actual drill marks, but just round circles that are in the bumper itself where a license plate would drill.
May be a Euro spec bumper. I see some Clubsports without.
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
As far as I know, it was not an option to delete, however, Porsche lists a part number for GT3 bumpers both with and without headlamp washers. My guess is that certain markets received them standard, some didn't, some had the option to delete, etc.

However, my concern with not having them is why it doesn't have them. My guess is somewhere along the way they resprayed the front bumper and they decided to fill them. Or someone ordered the bumper that does not include headlamp washer cutouts. Either way, it means there is a wuestion about what caused either a bumper replacement or repaint. A paint meter on the front of the car would be a good idea at the least (of course on the bumper you will be unable to get a reading, unless you have a $3k meter). If you Google the VIN, there is some information out there on the previous owner, so someone could probably reach out if they felt comfortable and were very interested in the car to know why it was replaced/filled. You may also want to see if the normal divots for license plate holes is there on the front, which all 997.1 GT3's had. They aren't actual drill marks, but just round circles that are in the bumper itself where a license plate would drill.
Obviously looking at pics is not the same as seeing it in person, but if that bumper was repainted whoever did it did a better job than Porsche. Very good color match. I see a ton of paint variation between bumpers and sheet metal on factory Porsches, especially some of the silvers and metallic grays where the metal flake seems to settle and dry differently depending on the substrate to which the paint was applied.

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Old 11-26-2020 | 01:32 AM
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12k-mile Grey/Red .2 RS. PCCB and FAL. Asking price is $170k.
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Originally Posted by 405
Looks like a nice example. One thing I noticed is it doesn't have the headlight washers. Was it a factory option to delete them? I had thought they came on all 997.1 GT3's.
what luck, they're about as useful as sport chrono...
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Originally Posted by 405
May be a Euro spec bumper. I see some Clubsports without.
not sure about the 997.1, but on the .2 GT3 you had the option to order “light weight” halogen headlights. If that option was selected, headlight washers were excluded.
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
not sure about the 997.1, but on the .2 GT3 you had the option to order “light weight” halogen headlights. If that option was selected, headlight washers were excluded.
997.1 GT3 had the option for Bixenon headlights, but not an option for lightweight halogen headlights.
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
997.1 GT3 had the option for Bixenon headlights, but not an option for lightweight halogen headlights.
so what lights came on the car if you didn’t order the bixenon? I suspect it was the same halogens which in the 997.2 were referred to as “lightweight”.
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
so what lights came on the car if you didn’t order the bixenon? I suspect it was the same halogens which in the 997.2 were referred to as “lightweight”.
From my quick research in the order guide for the 997.1 GT3, it appears standard was Halogen, then optional was xenon. Almost all 997.1 GT3's came with xenons though 889/963 in North America. Whereas on the 997.2 GT3, it seems that xenon was standard and then the lightweight halogen was optional. For the xenon option, it specifies headlamp cleaning system. After looking some more, Spyerx mentioned his car has halogen headlamps and he has a 997.1RS. This pic below shows that his car does not have headlamp washers. So it seems that halogen headlamps mean no washers. Xenon headlamps means headlight washers. Since that car I posted has halogens, it makes sense that it doesn't have the washers. Learned something new.

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