The 997 GT3/RS Cars For Sale Thread...
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There’s a reason for the aggressive pricing and still might not be aggressive enough. Here is the listing from earlier this year of this car.
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2011-porsche-gt3-rs/
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...l#post16431465
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2011-porsche-gt3-rs/
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...l#post16431465
If memory serves me correctly, I think this sold at Manheim a few months back for sub 110K. I'm pretty sure the number was 107K....Found it......
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What does everyone think a good price differential should be for a .1 to .2 with comparable mileage/condition? In other words, how much more should one pay for a .2 over a .1?
Looking at this .1 ( WP0AC29907S792576 ): Clean DME and lot of mechanical work just completed but no PPF and will probably need to be resprayed at some point
This .2 (WP0AC2A97AS783392) has similar mileage, but don't know state of mechanicals yet. asking 10K more than the .1
Looking at this .1 ( WP0AC29907S792576 ): Clean DME and lot of mechanical work just completed but no PPF and will probably need to be resprayed at some point
This .2 (WP0AC2A97AS783392) has similar mileage, but don't know state of mechanicals yet. asking 10K more than the .1
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Generally speaking I think $10K more for comparable miles, condition an options on a .2 over a .1 is very reasonable. Your respray question totals changes that though.
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What does everyone think a good price differential should be for a .1 to .2 with comparable mileage/condition? In other words, how much more should one pay for a .2 over a .1?
Looking at this .1 ( WP0AC29907S792576 ): Clean DME and lot of mechanical work just completed but no PPF and will probably need to be resprayed at some point
This .2 (WP0AC2A97AS783392) has similar mileage, but don't know state of mechanicals yet. asking 10K more than the .1
Looking at this .1 ( WP0AC29907S792576 ): Clean DME and lot of mechanical work just completed but no PPF and will probably need to be resprayed at some point
This .2 (WP0AC2A97AS783392) has similar mileage, but don't know state of mechanicals yet. asking 10K more than the .1
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What does everyone think a good price differential should be for a .1 to .2 with comparable mileage/condition? In other words, how much more should one pay for a .2 over a .1?
Looking at this .1 ( WP0AC29907S792576 ): Clean DME and lot of mechanical work just completed but no PPF and will probably need to be resprayed at some point
This .2 (WP0AC2A97AS783392) has similar mileage, but don't know state of mechanicals yet. asking 10K more than the .1
Looking at this .1 ( WP0AC29907S792576 ): Clean DME and lot of mechanical work just completed but no PPF and will probably need to be resprayed at some point
This .2 (WP0AC2A97AS783392) has similar mileage, but don't know state of mechanicals yet. asking 10K more than the .1
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I recently bought a .2 after looking and driving several .1 and .2 all year. For me personally, I was willing to spend 15k-20k more on a .2 simply because I think all the small incremental changes add up to a lot, and I wanted the last gen of the naturally aspirated Mezger. This is just a weekend toy that doesnt rack up a lot of miles and the incremental price differenced won't impact my life. However, If I was on a tighter budget, and planned to add a lot of miles where depreciation would be an issue, I would have probably gone with a .1 to save some money. Both are an absolute blast to drive, and you really have to drive both to feel any benefit of the .2. Some say they even prefer the .1 so like anything else, this will ultimately be a personal choice.
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I just sold my gray .2RS - I loved the car but Los Angeles is a horrible place to enjoy a car like this. Every time I went to drive it I ended up taking out my 991TTS - Which regret selling
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...che-997-gt3rs/
The car was absolutely immaculate but since I preferred the car "stealth" I pulled the graphics and painted the wheels black. It is the way I would have ordered it from the factory. I think I sold for fair value but I anticipate the short mile cars rising to the 200 range soon.
I still have my Green .1RS with 9K miles - I purchased the car from the first owner and a RLer. I paid up for it since it was rare and I wanted Green. Doug knows the car. It is mint.
My life has shifted a bit ( no pun intended ) and I am trying to move into some newer cars I will actually drive. I would sell it off market if the right offer came up. I am selling all my manual ( collector ) cars and going to build another 991 Turbo S and just drive the **** out of it.
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...che-997-gt3rs/
The car was absolutely immaculate but since I preferred the car "stealth" I pulled the graphics and painted the wheels black. It is the way I would have ordered it from the factory. I think I sold for fair value but I anticipate the short mile cars rising to the 200 range soon.
I still have my Green .1RS with 9K miles - I purchased the car from the first owner and a RLer. I paid up for it since it was rare and I wanted Green. Doug knows the car. It is mint.
My life has shifted a bit ( no pun intended ) and I am trying to move into some newer cars I will actually drive. I would sell it off market if the right offer came up. I am selling all my manual ( collector ) cars and going to build another 991 Turbo S and just drive the **** out of it.
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White 2600 mile .1 GT3 on BAT. Zero over revs, PCCB, and leather. One of the most stunning and cleanest .1 GT3’s I have seen in awhile.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-31/
VIN: WP0AC299X7S792777
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-31/
VIN: WP0AC299X7S792777
Yes, that would be a perfect car for a collector to sit on for 20 years, but ultimately, they'd probably be better off buying a Green or Orange RS with those miles and keeping it stored.
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I just sold my gray .2RS - I loved the car but Los Angeles is a horrible place to enjoy a car like this. Every time I went to drive it I ended up taking out my 991TTS - Which regret selling
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...che-997-gt3rs/
The car was absolutely immaculate but since I preferred the car "stealth" I pulled the graphics and painted the wheels black. It is the way I would have ordered it from the factory. I think I sold for fair value but I anticipate the short mile cars rising to the 200 range soon.
I still have my Green .1RS with 9K miles - I purchased the car from the first owner and a RLer. I paid up for it since it was rare and I wanted Green. Doug knows the car. It is mint.
My life has shifted a bit ( no pun intended ) and I am trying to move into some newer cars I will actually drive. I would sell it off market if the right offer came up. I am selling all my manual ( collector ) cars and going to build another 991 Turbo S and just drive the **** out of it.
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...che-997-gt3rs/
The car was absolutely immaculate but since I preferred the car "stealth" I pulled the graphics and painted the wheels black. It is the way I would have ordered it from the factory. I think I sold for fair value but I anticipate the short mile cars rising to the 200 range soon.
I still have my Green .1RS with 9K miles - I purchased the car from the first owner and a RLer. I paid up for it since it was rare and I wanted Green. Doug knows the car. It is mint.
My life has shifted a bit ( no pun intended ) and I am trying to move into some newer cars I will actually drive. I would sell it off market if the right offer came up. I am selling all my manual ( collector ) cars and going to build another 991 Turbo S and just drive the **** out of it.
Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on .1 vs .2, as that is something many debate on a daily basis, but that is probably for a separate thread.
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Reserve not met at $107k. Personally, while I think it's cool that you could still buy a near new GT3 today, you can get one with 10-30k miles, with clear film, which has been maintained, driven and in 95% as good of condition as that one for $95-105k. I'm guessing reserve on that one was around $115k. Drive your cars, maintain them, document them, and I think you'll still be able to get a solid dollar amount for your car while enjoying it, instead of letting it sit.
Yes, that would be a perfect car for a collector to sit on for 20 years, but ultimately, they'd probably be better off buying a Green or Orange RS with those miles and keeping it stored.
Yes, that would be a perfect car for a collector to sit on for 20 years, but ultimately, they'd probably be better off buying a Green or Orange RS with those miles and keeping it stored.
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What does everyone think a good price differential should be for a .1 to .2 with comparable mileage/condition? In other words, how much more should one pay for a .2 over a .1?
Looking at this .1 ( WP0AC29907S792576 ): Clean DME and lot of mechanical work just completed but no PPF and will probably need to be resprayed at some point
This .2 (WP0AC2A97AS783392) has similar mileage, but don't know state of mechanicals yet. asking 10K more than the .1
Looking at this .1 ( WP0AC29907S792576 ): Clean DME and lot of mechanical work just completed but no PPF and will probably need to be resprayed at some point
This .2 (WP0AC2A97AS783392) has similar mileage, but don't know state of mechanicals yet. asking 10K more than the .1
Miles identical, condition identical, similar production numbers/desirability of color, I would say $10-15k on average. It starts getting really tricky though, as you're going to have to find 2 white 997 GT3's, one .1 and one .2, within 5k miles of each other, with similar DME's, both having/not having paint work, similar options/MSRP, both having/not having PCCB's, etc. Hard to compare those two cars only because the Atlas car is much more rare.
While I am normally a fan of the .1 over the .2 (only due to the engine), in this case I would say .2 all day long. Full leather with red deviated stitching, no sport chrono (I have it in my GT3 but a lot of people like the clean look on the dash without), and what looks to be a clean car. I'm a bit particular when it comes to paint and the Atlas car would need a respray at some point for me to be happy with it due to the level of chipping. Ultimately, I would need to get a PPI on the .2 car to feel comfortable purchasing it to be sure paint and mechanicals were in good condition. When you buy one, just expect to sink some money into it, which should be the case anytime you buy a used car. It's a used car, there is going to be some maintenance that you feel is necessary that the previous owner did not. So whether you're buying an M3 or a GT3, I would say set aside some money so that you're able to go through the car and fully sort it.
I'll still say that I don't think that a cosmetic respray (for chips/scratches etc.) should effect the value as much as it does on Porsche GT cars, but unfortunately it does. It's the world we live in, so you will need to factor that into the price. If you plan to respray, just understand that someone down the road may want to pay a bit less for it since it's not an original paint car. However, a reasonable buyer should be able to see with before and after pics and a quality respray that it was done for cosmetic reasons only, especially on a 40k+ mile car which is more in the driver category at that point.
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Agreed though that a collector car can't have those question marks.
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They are both supermodels, I was privileged to enjoy both and I feel very lucky. I bought the green car as a "investment" if I were to do it again I would likely buy a .1 with some miles on it and just enjoy it. As I mentioned my life has changed a bit. My passion for Porsche is still strong but I am daily driving a raptor in place of the cayenne I sold and looking to get into a 991 Turbo S. I may regret selling these cars but half the fun for me was always hunting down the special ones.
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^^^ I totally get it. I've had a handful of cars that I thought I would keep forever and yet I don't think I've ever kept a car forever. Life changes, tastes change, you never have any idea what you're going to really want 10 years down the road. Or even a couple years down the road. Variety is the spice of life. The fantasy of the "forever car" is just that (or at least it is a lot more rare than most assume when they find their "forever car ").
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^^^ I totally get it. I've had a handful of cars that I thought I would keep forever and yet I don't think I've ever kept a car forever. Life changes, tastes change, you never have any idea what you're going to really want 10 years down the road. Or even a couple years down the road. Variety is the spice of life. The fantasy of the "forever car" is just that (or at least it is a lot more rare than most assume when they find their "forever car ").
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Please note I would sell my 997.1 GT2, but not my GT3 RS. It is the ONE.
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