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Old 05-18-2017, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by squid42
I don't think the question of whether it is "lifetime fluid" or not has never been resolved. It costs $$$ and can only be done by the dealer.

I would not give up manual for a first-year PDK. It noticeably improved by now.
Can anyone here clarify improvements in the PDK for 997.2 through the years 2010, 11, and 12?

I'm eventually looking for a 997.2 C2S, C4S, or GTS with PDK, and have heard that the first year PDK was not the best. Does this mean that after the first year it was improved, or do people really mean that it was improved under the 991 iteration?

Thanks!
Old 05-18-2017, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zechunique
Can anyone here clarify improvements in the PDK for 997.2 through the years 2010, 11, and 12?

I'm eventually looking for a 997.2 C2S, C4S, or GTS with PDK, and have heard that the first year PDK was not the best. Does this mean that after the first year it was improved, or do people really mean that it was improved under the 991 iteration?

Thanks!
I think the enhancements were SW, not mechanical. I've never been able to find any info on equipment changes. If that's the case, the improvements are attainable through a flash, which the dealer will perform if you say there's an issue. I have an 09 pdk and recently got the sport SW installed, and it's the best auto I have ever driven hands down. It's almost psychic in sport mode.
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Originally Posted by jdgamble
I think the enhancements were SW, not mechanical. I've never been able to find any info on equipment changes. If that's the case, the improvements are attainable through a flash, which the dealer will perform if you say there's an issue. I have an 09 pdk and recently got the sport SW installed, and it's the best auto I have ever driven hands down. It's almost psychic in sport mode.
^^This. No enhancements beyond software, which can be flashed by dealer. My 09 C2S has latest software with SC+, and it's amazing. Can't imagine anything faster/better other than PDK S.
Old 05-19-2017, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DC911S
Its probably the rubber bushing in the control arm that went bad. They can go bad. As for the glass, could have got pitted driving in a sandy area or perhaps a rock was thrown up and got it.
This car was clearly driven in an area where rocks being thrown up by other vehicles are common, and it might have uneven ground. Not a problem as such as the rock chips are visible and control arms replaced. I would carefully test drive it to see whether there is anything else feeling loose in the suspension. Fixing vibrations or other shimmies can be really annoying. Still, I don't see anything there that would not make it a great buy.
Old 05-19-2017, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by zechunique
Can anyone here clarify improvements in the PDK for 997.2 through the years 2010, 11, and 12?

I'm eventually looking for a 997.2 C2S, C4S, or GTS with PDK, and have heard that the first year PDK was not the best. Does this mean that after the first year it was improved, or do people really mean that it was improved under the 991 iteration?

Thanks!
There are a couple of hardware revisions that people posted elsewhere. Myself I drove various revisions, among others a 2009 boxster and a 718. The difference was huge. I do not believe the 2009 was broken in any way, and I have no information on what software revision it might have gotten in between.

I generally don't like random software upgrading when I do not get a detailed changelog (not just "bugs fixed", duh), and when I cannot be sure about what amount of software for what amount of subsystems was updated (much less changelog thereof).

Heck, in most cars you cannot even see which software version is currently active for which subsystem.

Rant over. I'm getting a manual. Manual 911 SC
Old 05-19-2017, 10:53 AM
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Checking my notes. It is possible the PDK hardware revisions are related to models, not time (see below). Still, it is hard to believe that made the same transmission for 7 years without randomly messing with details. Especially for something as complex as a dual clutch transmission.

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  - PDK 7DT-45: 997.2 na (two oil circuits with different specs)
  - PDK 7DT-70: 997.2 turbo (two oil circuits with different specs)
  - PDK 7dt-75: Panamera (one oil circuit)
Old 05-19-2017, 11:45 AM
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Not a .2 but it is a 6SPD
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...7181/overview/
VIN: WP0AB29927S732270

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I am a little worried about this one's maintenance though. Nothing on the Carfax since 2015. It could have been DIY but it doesn't quite jive with the previous history of the last owner. Maybe it turned into a garage queen and sat for a while before it was sold. The only other major work was the water pump & gasket. Otherwise okay.
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wow, I love this cobalt blue with the turbo wheels. 8000 miles, full leather, sport seats, sports chrono, sport exhaust... too bad its at $66,500

WP0AB29937S731483

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...modelCode1=911
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CPO 2012 manual C2S with 45k miles at $55k
WP0AB2A95CS720393
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...modelCode1=911
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I ran into this Targa 4 post. What price does it sound right to you for getting this?

https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/6130125194.html
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Are you looking for a triptronic car?
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Originally Posted by char911
I ran into this Targa 4 post. What price does it sound right to you for getting this?

https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/6130125194.html
Price seems good as long as history checks out.
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Default 2006 white Carrera sea blue interior - 9.2K miles - $43k

997.1 2006 white Carrera sea blue interior Tip. - 9.2K miles - $43k - female owner per sales rep

http://www.porschewestbroward.com/de...-16336564.html
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Yea i can only look for a tip as it has to be driven by anyone in the family. Usually I found tip being more affordable too so I am OK with that.
Old 05-21-2017, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Swift17
997.1 2006 white Carrera sea blue interior Tip. - 9.2K miles - $43k - female owner per sales rep

http://www.porschewestbroward.com/de...-16336564.html
Doesn't mean it wasn't driven hard. My wife will only drive a six speed and does at least 2 track days a year


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