NorthCoastDoug

I've seen a few 997.2 dealer posts mentioning a car has the X51 Carrera S Powerkit, but each time i've run the VIN, the option doesn't show up on the options list (see link below for example).
Was the X51 a factory option on the 997.2? If so, does it show up on the options list?
I've never seen the X51 listed as an option on a 997.2 build sheet. if it was a factory option, it must have been very rare.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...modelCode1=911

TimYH

Long time super-lurker here. I have started searching for a 997.2 myself and came across this one not too far from me.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...1062/overview/

The miles are a little high for me liking and it isn't a 6-speed but the price doesn't look bad at all and it is at a Porsche dealership so I can kind of trust that it is a better condition model.

NorthCoastDoug

Sonic dealerships seem to have lower than normal dealer prices. And per DougH their cars are generally good. For a 997.2 4S, you don't see too many listings below that price.

DC911S

Yes its listed on Suncoast as an option to buy.

pics at: http://allensamuelsdirect.com/used-p...n-tx-0bs755012

X51 has a different intake manifolds.....I dont see that here.

squid42

$48,981 @ 67,027 miles, down from $110,120 msrp

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...modelCode1=911

VIN: WP0AB299X9S720435

67,027 miles, $110,120 msrp, $61,139 loss, 44.48%
$0.91/mile, mile factor 0.886/10k
$601.52/month(w), age 8.5 years (101 months), factor 0.909/year, 7,918 miles/year (warranty)
$573.51/month(p), age 8.9 years (106 months), factor 0.913/year, 7,549 miles/year (production)






So far that thing looks like an awesome car. Miles is up for the buyer to decide, a 997.2 c4s is expensive either way.

Schedule of maintenance on carfax looks like owner cared. Controls arms etc.

TimYH

Thanks for all the extra numbers! I was a little curious about the maintenance. The carfax listed the control arm, CV boot replacements, and window glass replacements. It'll probably be looking at a PDK Transmission fluid change to be on the safe side?

The two things holding me back are the transmission and 4 wheel drive.

Don't get me wrong. My wife's Macan shifts like a video game. I couldn't believe how good it was. But the fact that most dealers and shops treat it as a replace no repair part makes me hesitate a bit. Granted after a hefty bill I'd get a brand new transmission which would be good for a while.

4 wheel drive is not quite necessary for my climate. If I took it back Northeast sure.

Ideally I wanted a C2S 6SPD but this happened to show up and it is equipped almost perfectly and priced well.

DC911S

You don't notice the 997.2 C4S has AWD till it detects slip and kicks in, even then it's no big deal and you really don't feel it. THe C4S comes with the LSD included....It feels more planted than a 2S, some might say its a heavier feel. The 997.2 tranny is the same as the turbo model. If you are just driving around most of the power goes to the rear wheels. If needed it can load the back/front to almost any ratio.

squid42

I don't think the question of whether it is "lifetime fluid" or not has never been resolved. It costs $$$ and can only be done by the dealer.

I would not give up manual for a first-year PDK. It noticeably improved by now.

jsalah

This. I know it's a tired expression (and some say if it feels this way, you're not driving hard/fast enough), but my C4s truly feels like it's on rails. It is so surefooted that it's a pleasure to drive. Talk about the joy of cornering....

Unless you are going to track the car a lot and (a) care about the extra weight and/or (b) want that back-weighted, drift style feeling, you're not going to complain about the AWD.... At least that's my experience. YMMV.

TimYH

I think this is what it is going to come down to for me. Ultimately I still want three pedals. I guess I will keep fishing for my car.

Thanks for the clarification and anecdotes about the C4S handling. Definitely will consider it more strongly or at the very try and find one to test drive.

m1a1mg

Any recommendations for a PPI in Portland, OR?

docdrs

It really doesnt cost that much to have it done at the dealer, although it may need a new pan for that model year. It can be a DIY and I will be doing mine next time around. Someone has already diy a pdk transmission fluid change. It is a little complicated, but definitely can be done without the PIWIS

Olsonxi

M1a1mg > if you are talking about the white cabrio, I had a PPI dome at Matrix Integrated. Unfortumately, I had decided against the car by the time the PPI was done so I didnt get a copy. Grand Prix should have a copy. The only thing that stood out was a RMS seep. PASM wasnt working, but I think they got that workimg by resetting it. Not sure if that is a red flag. Lot of wear on some of the interior *****. Thats about all I remember.

m1a1mg

Thanks so much. If you don't mind my asking, what made you decide against it?

Olsonxi

Automatic. For brief minute I thought I could live with it.