997s deals around the interwebz (no affiliation)
11-09-2017, 01:25 PM
#1771
Three Wheelin'
Either that, or the car has sold and they haven't bothered to pull the ad.
11-09-2017, 01:39 PM
#1772
Three Wheelin'
There are very few 997.2's on the market, especially if you want a low-mileage manual. Dealers may sit on them for a bit longer on the .2 this time of year, but they aren't likely to budge on price if they know the 911 market.
The disparity could be a combination of things. The 2009-2012 MY is easily financed, whereas the 997.1 would likely either be a cash car, or a high interest rate. The 997.1 IMS still scares people off, even though the fear is overblown. The engine updates on the .2 are significant; the PASM is much better, and the PCM is use-able, unlike the .1. It is that sweet spot of the newest, highest performing, yet most analog and mechanical recent 911. Throw in the small production numbers between 9-12, and you have a car that isn't losing value.
11-09-2017, 02:18 PM
#1773
11-09-2017, 02:23 PM
#1774
11-09-2017, 03:09 PM
#1775
First time Porsche buyer (997.2 should arrive on Sunday), so I don't have experience with P dealers, but I recently paid for a PPI on a 997.1. I ended up passing on the car (not really because of anything in the report) but found out that the Porsche dealer that did the $320 PPI SOLD it to another gentleman looking for a PPI on the same car. I have shared the report with a rennlister by my own choice, but did not expect the dealer to SELL it to someone without my permission. The dealer selling the car also now has the report that I paid for. Is this normal behaviour by Porsche dealers? </rant>
11-09-2017, 03:36 PM
#1777
11-09-2017, 03:44 PM
#1778
Just make sure that you get a PPI on the car, if you decide to move forward with the purchase, and I would also recommend having a paint depth gauge put on the panels to confirm it hasn't been resprayed. Make sure that the PDK feels solid, and dont be afraid to take the car out for 30 mins or so to try and find any issues with it. Other than the 2009+ cars are pretty solid.
11-09-2017, 03:47 PM
#1779
I have seen the same; lots of 997.1's for sale right now, with pricing as low as I have ever seen it. A friend of mine got $39k for his 48,000 mile, full leather 2007 C2S last spring in a private party sale. I am seeing dealer prices creep close to that level. Trade in on another friend's Atlas Grey 997.1 with 52k miles, 2007, 6MT, in spring of 2016, was $39,000. That car has probably lost $5k in value over the prior 18 months.
There are very few 997.2's on the market, especially if you want a low-mileage manual. Dealers may sit on them for a bit longer on the .2 this time of year, but they aren't likely to budge on price if they know the 911 market.
The disparity could be a combination of things. The 2009-2012 MY is easily financed, whereas the 997.1 would likely either be a cash car, or a high interest rate. The 997.1 IMS still scares people off, even though the fear is overblown. The engine updates on the .2 are significant; the PASM is much better, and the PCM is use-able, unlike the .1. It is that sweet spot of the newest, highest performing, yet most analog and mechanical recent 911. Throw in the small production numbers between 9-12, and you have a car that isn't losing value.
There are very few 997.2's on the market, especially if you want a low-mileage manual. Dealers may sit on them for a bit longer on the .2 this time of year, but they aren't likely to budge on price if they know the 911 market.
The disparity could be a combination of things. The 2009-2012 MY is easily financed, whereas the 997.1 would likely either be a cash car, or a high interest rate. The 997.1 IMS still scares people off, even though the fear is overblown. The engine updates on the .2 are significant; the PASM is much better, and the PCM is use-able, unlike the .1. It is that sweet spot of the newest, highest performing, yet most analog and mechanical recent 911. Throw in the small production numbers between 9-12, and you have a car that isn't losing value.
11-09-2017, 03:48 PM
#1780
Looks like I will not be looking at the car after all. Got a call this morning from the dealer that it has already been sold to an out of state guy. It was an 09 with 60k miles, PDK all of the options you could think of for only $39k. I'm so pissed this one got away as I've been searching and thought this was the one! Thank you for your tip, if this was all that needed to be done on a 997 for a 60k major service then I'm leaning towards the right car.
11-09-2017, 04:10 PM
#1781
I saw that car online also, an absolutely amazing buy for the money and considering it was a launch car, I am surprised they were letting it go for so cheap. Whoever got that could even put $5k into it to make it even nicer with maintenance and maybe a front respray if it needed it, and they have quite the driver for not a lot of money in terms of the market.
I'm in the DFW area and willing to drive within 400 miles, anything farther I will have to pass. If you see any in my area please post and I'll do the same.
Good luck in your search bro!
11-09-2017, 05:05 PM
#1782
Agreed with what you said, and also who you quoted said. Finding any 997.2 right now is difficult, then add in wanting a couple of specific options and it becomes near impossible. For example, a year ago a 997 GTS with 30k miles was selling for mid $60s. That same car is selling for low to mid $70s now. Granted, they are "asking" that price for the car, and they might be selling for less, but considering people are asking $10k more a year later is crazy.
11-09-2017, 05:16 PM
#1783
Three Wheelin'
There was a GTS for sale here for $64k or so, I think it had 50k miles, back in early February. Sold immediately, within a few days. I would be surprised if anyone gets a "deal" on a GTS at any time of year anymore. Someone will just buy the car, hold it for 3 months, flip it in April, and pocket $5k.
December/January, I can see non-P-Car dealers trying to get rid of stock however. Anyone who knows the market is going to hold it for another 3 months and come out thousands ahead.
December/January, I can see non-P-Car dealers trying to get rid of stock however. Anyone who knows the market is going to hold it for another 3 months and come out thousands ahead.
11-09-2017, 05:39 PM
#1784
I have seen the same; lots of 997.1's for sale right now, with pricing as low as I have ever seen it. A friend of mine got $39k for his 48,000 mile, full leather 2007 C2S last spring in a private party sale. I am seeing dealer prices creep close to that level. Trade in on another friend's Atlas Grey 997.1 with 52k miles, 2007, 6MT, in spring of 2016, was $39,000. That car has probably lost $5k in value over the prior 18 months.
There are very few 997.2's on the market, especially if you want a low-mileage manual. Dealers may sit on them for a bit longer on the .2 this time of year, but they aren't likely to budge on price if they know the 911 market.
The disparity could be a combination of things. The 2009-2012 MY is easily financed, whereas the 997.1 would likely either be a cash car, or a high interest rate. The 997.1 IMS still scares people off, even though the fear is overblown. The engine updates on the .2 are significant; the PASM is much better, and the PCM is use-able, unlike the .1. It is that sweet spot of the newest, highest performing, yet most analog and mechanical recent 911. Throw in the small production numbers between 9-12, and you have a car that isn't losing value.
There are very few 997.2's on the market, especially if you want a low-mileage manual. Dealers may sit on them for a bit longer on the .2 this time of year, but they aren't likely to budge on price if they know the 911 market.
The disparity could be a combination of things. The 2009-2012 MY is easily financed, whereas the 997.1 would likely either be a cash car, or a high interest rate. The 997.1 IMS still scares people off, even though the fear is overblown. The engine updates on the .2 are significant; the PASM is much better, and the PCM is use-able, unlike the .1. It is that sweet spot of the newest, highest performing, yet most analog and mechanical recent 911. Throw in the small production numbers between 9-12, and you have a car that isn't losing value.
11-09-2017, 06:27 PM
#1785
I see that you're also in the market for a 997.2? How much are you willing to pay for your perfect 997.2? I initially was leaning towards the 997.1 but recently have been seeing some great deals on 997.2. I know these 2 cars are significantly different as night and day but if I ever come across a 997.2 with a deal like that and within my vicinity, I'm all over it!
I'm in the DFW area and willing to drive within 400 miles, anything farther I will have to pass. If you see any in my area please post and I'll do the same. Good luck in your search bro!
I'm in the DFW area and willing to drive within 400 miles, anything farther I will have to pass. If you see any in my area please post and I'll do the same.
Good luck in your search bro!If I see anything that is in the $40k or so range, I will be sure to forward it on to you as well. Best of luck!