997s deals around the interwebz (no affiliation)
11-14-2017, 12:27 PM
#1831
Rennlist Member
Trying to point out the huge difference in a guy with a 35k budget looking at high mileage 997s drive asking about appreciation vs collector car garage queens.
He could post a thread "help me convince my wife P cars are a great investment" and we could all have some fun with it!
He could post a thread "help me convince my wife P cars are a great investment" and we could all have some fun with it!
11-14-2017, 02:54 PM
#1832
*Speedster
*Sport Classic
* GT model
*Low-mileage GTS/4S/T4S/S with nice options.
-PDKs seem to be just as desirable as manuals so that shouldn't be a factor, unlike the Tiptronic.
A 100K+ mile car not so much. It will depreciate less than almost any new car of the equivalent price!
11-14-2017, 03:54 PM
#1833
Local to me, one of the higher spec 997.2 C4S cabs I have seen. All the right options, silver over Terracotta, PDK (controversial) and sport seats.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6480/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6480/overview/
11-14-2017, 04:31 PM
#1834
Anyone else think this car is about $8k overpriced consider mileage? It is PTS, but I cannot imagine it selling for $68k with nearly 40k miles. It also has CPO. I understand KBB is not an indicator for these cars, but I bet if I traded a car in they would go according to KBB, and I still like to use it as a guide. KBB says $58k with CPO.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...7812/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...7812/overview/
11-14-2017, 04:46 PM
#1836
11-14-2017, 04:58 PM
#1837
Three Wheelin'
Yes, if it is a:
*Speedster
*Sport Classic
* GT model
*Low-mileage GTS/4S/T4S/S with nice options.
-PDKs seem to be just as desirable as manuals so that shouldn't be a factor, unlike the Tiptronic.
A 100K+ mile car not so much. It will depreciate less than almost any new car of the equivalent price!
*Speedster
*Sport Classic
* GT model
*Low-mileage GTS/4S/T4S/S with nice options.
-PDKs seem to be just as desirable as manuals so that shouldn't be a factor, unlike the Tiptronic.
A 100K+ mile car not so much. It will depreciate less than almost any new car of the equivalent price!
We are looking at a 991 base that has choice options (for a friend who is in the market and knows nothing about P-cars), and it has 68k on the clock. Well maintained, all records, priced at $50k private party. No reason at all to be scared of something like that. It started life as a $106k build. Certainly, when it hits 120k miles, it won't have lost anywhere close to $56,000 again. Probably more like $15,000 at most. It may require a bit more maintenance, but it also has CPO for another year.
11-14-2017, 07:21 PM
#1838
11-14-2017, 09:58 PM
#1839
Rennlist Member
Maybe from Houston one of the million or so cars that got pretty wet.
If not water logged looks like a really nice deal for someone.
If not water logged looks like a really nice deal for someone.
11-15-2017, 12:54 AM
#1840
Racer
I posted my 09 C2S in the vehicle classifieds today. PDK, Sports Chrono, Bose, PRG/Sand Beige.
$43,000 including 4 years remaining Fidelity Powertrain Warranty. Clean Carfax
Sold!
$43,000 including 4 years remaining Fidelity Powertrain Warranty. Clean Carfax
Sold!
Last edited by D1coach; 11-15-2017 at 08:36 PM.
11-15-2017, 12:19 PM
#1841
11-15-2017, 12:38 PM
#1842
Rennlist Member
PRG = Porsche Racing Green. Love that color.
11-15-2017, 01:30 PM
#1843
No. I think a clean, low-mileage 997.2S or C4S will hold most of it's value, but for appreciation you are better off with an index fund and a ten-year horizon.
If you want a chance at appreciation, buy a new 911T or a GT3. That said, I think you'll do better with a mutual fund. A number of diversified growth funds returned >30% last year. Porsches are for driving.
If you want a chance at appreciation, buy a new 911T or a GT3. That said, I think you'll do better with a mutual fund. A number of diversified growth funds returned >30% last year. Porsches are for driving.
I'm deciding if I want to buy a 997.1 or 997.2 and yes money is a factor. I'm buying a Porsche to drive as a daily with the intent to sell after 4-5 years. My thoughts are:
If I buy a 997.1 it would be cheaper but I have to deal with the IMS & score cylinder issues that could happen.
If I buy a 997.2 it will be more expensive but I don't have to deal with the "major" known issues, drive daily and sell after 4-5 years.
I'm not looking to invest with this car, just want to get the best bang for the buck from the time I buy to the time I sell.
11-15-2017, 01:46 PM
#1844
Rennlist Member
997.2 vs. 997.1
I'm deciding if I want to buy a 997.1 or 997.2 and yes money is a factor. I'm buying a Porsche to drive as a daily with the intent to sell after 4-5 years. My thoughts are:
If I buy a 997.1 it would be cheaper but I have to deal with the IMS & score cylinder issues that could happen.
If I buy a 997.2 it will be more expensive but I don't have to deal with the "major" known issues, drive daily and sell after 4-5 years.
I'm not looking to invest with this car, just want to get the best bang for the buck from the time I buy to the time I sell.
If I buy a 997.1 it would be cheaper but I have to deal with the IMS & score cylinder issues that could happen.
If I buy a 997.2 it will be more expensive but I don't have to deal with the "major" known issues, drive daily and sell after 4-5 years.
I'm not looking to invest with this car, just want to get the best bang for the buck from the time I buy to the time I sell.
I would scrape the money together to buy the 997.2. IMHO, you will retain more value with this car. I bought mine in part for the same reason. I figure I paid an extra $10k for my 2009 C4S Cab rather than buying an earlier 997.1 car.
I believe, the .2 cars will cost less to operate and hold more value. Historically, the highest performance versions of seminal models always do. Consider any C2 Corvette versus a comparable C3 or any Porsche 993 versus a similar 996. 997.2 cars are that different.
I think there will be fewer issues with the .2 cars and that they will be more desirable in the future. I believe they will have overall lower 5 year total ownership costs than .1 cars.
I believe S cars will hold value better than the base cars.
11-15-2017, 02:43 PM
#1845
I have posted in the past about my strong belief in the superiority of the 997.2 cars.
I would scrape the money together to buy the 997.2. IMHO, you will retain more value with this car. I bought mine in part for the same reason. I figure I paid an extra $10k for my 2009 C4S Cab rather than buying an earlier 997.1 car.
I believe, the .2 cars will cost less to operate and hold more value. Historically, the highest performance versions of seminal models always do. Consider any C2 Corvette versus a comparable C3 or any Porsche 993 versus a similar 996. 997.2 cars are that different.
I think there will be fewer issues with the .2 cars and that they will be more desirable in the future. I believe they will have overall lower 5 year total ownership costs than .1 cars.
I believe S cars will hold value better than the base cars.
I would scrape the money together to buy the 997.2. IMHO, you will retain more value with this car. I bought mine in part for the same reason. I figure I paid an extra $10k for my 2009 C4S Cab rather than buying an earlier 997.1 car.
I believe, the .2 cars will cost less to operate and hold more value. Historically, the highest performance versions of seminal models always do. Consider any C2 Corvette versus a comparable C3 or any Porsche 993 versus a similar 996. 997.2 cars are that different.
I think there will be fewer issues with the .2 cars and that they will be more desirable in the future. I believe they will have overall lower 5 year total ownership costs than .1 cars.
I believe S cars will hold value better than the base cars.
