Note to Porsche classic - 997 PCCM plus request
#1756
Racer
For those of you following the SD Map Card saga, I received my *replacement* SD Card this afternoon, put it in my PCCM+, performed Auto-Configuration for good measure, then fired up Navigation. No va -- my replacement card is still missing all those states after New York alphabetically. I was not terribly surprised at this result, given that someone at the well-respected and deeply experienced professional engineering firm of Porsche made the awful decision to re-use the same part number, packaging, and apparently version number with no new markings or revision number. I predict the cost of Porsche NA trying to manage their mixed-up inventory while stamping out warranty issue fire after warranty issue fire with this card will greatly exceed any monies saved in packaging and labeling costs.
In pretty much all Toyota Production System companies, all existing inventory would have been immediately quarantined system-wide so the problem would be contained and no more bad cards could possibly be shipped, the quarantined units would be collected in one place and destroyed, the revised SD Card would be thoroughly tested and packaged with some sort of new revision indicator (geez -- a simple "New" sticker would be sufficient), then the replacement units would be shipped with some sort of apology, covering all shipping costs, and all of the above done is a *big hurry* before customer resentment starts to spread. Oh, and whoever made such a stupid decision to (a) *not* test the initial units and (b) *not* differentiate the corrected units would be asked to resign in disgrace. These are both rookie errors!
In pretty much all Toyota Production System companies, all existing inventory would have been immediately quarantined system-wide so the problem would be contained and no more bad cards could possibly be shipped, the quarantined units would be collected in one place and destroyed, the revised SD Card would be thoroughly tested and packaged with some sort of new revision indicator (geez -- a simple "New" sticker would be sufficient), then the replacement units would be shipped with some sort of apology, covering all shipping costs, and all of the above done is a *big hurry* before customer resentment starts to spread. Oh, and whoever made such a stupid decision to (a) *not* test the initial units and (b) *not* differentiate the corrected units would be asked to resign in disgrace. These are both rookie errors!
Last edited by JustinCase; 03-23-2023 at 08:43 PM.
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#1757
Instructor
I just ordered yesterday from McKenna Porsche (in Los Angeles area) and they beat SunCoast' price.
*Edit - that was for the 955 PCCM. They had a handful. Sorry - I forget I'm visiting the 997 section in hopes @Steve W will enlighten us on moving the USB to the back.
*Edit - that was for the 955 PCCM. They had a handful. Sorry - I forget I'm visiting the 997 section in hopes @Steve W will enlighten us on moving the USB to the back.
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dlascoskie (03-24-2023)
#1758
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Just need someone to wake up Steve W and this thread will be a very happy one!
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#1759
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#1760
Racer
So for everyone asking about the relocation of the port, it's pretty basic. Below are the internals of the unit as it comes when you open it. You see a black header cable that plugs in to the main board where circled, to another plug right behind the front USB port. That circled connection where you see the red/white/green/black wires is the main connection port for the front USB/CarPlay port. When you plug into the front USB port, the header cable basically brings that over to the main board connection header:
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.
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#1761
Racer
BTW, installation tips: these are all the parts that I have left over that I did not use. Not the side brackets or the shelf as it's just added weight, none of the antenna bypass cables (for diversity FM setups) as I had a FM single antenna setup, not the Most unit or cable as I don't have Bose, and especially the black/orange adapter harness added no value. If you actually look at the adapter harness, for the most part you'll realize it does nothing. Every wire in the adapter is tiny 20g wire including the power and ground, much thinner than you'll find coming from the harness from the car, which is something like 14g for power and ground. If your unit uses the amplifier in the unit to drive the car's speakers, the harness wires are way undersized. The only thing the whole harness does is bring a blue turn on jumper wire from Plug Connection A, A8 to C9 to turn on an ASK amplifier, if that's what you have. The yellow wire coming out of C19 serves no purpose on a 997, except to turn on the existing rear camera on a Cayenne. My suggestion is to look and see where each of the wires go that plugs into your existing harness, and if the wires dead end into nothing, mainly that blue wire, just don't use it and plug the existing car's harness connector into your unit.
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#1762
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QUOTE=Steve W;18703863]So for everyone asking about the relocation of the port, it's pretty basic. Below are the internals of the unit as it comes when you open it. You see a black header cable that plugs in to the main board where circled, to another plug right behind the front USB port. That circled connection where you see the red/white/green/black wires is the main connection port for the front USB/CarPlay port. When you plug into the front USB port, the header cable basically brings that over to the main board connection header:
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.
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Thanks! adding it to the guide
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.
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Thanks! adding it to the guide
Last edited by svandamme; 03-24-2023 at 07:07 AM.
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dlascoskie (03-24-2023)
#1763
Thank you so much @Steve W. Because of the guide on here this is a project i feel very comfortable DIYing, and think i can handle this extra step, too haha. For the extra technologically inept, by any chance do you have links to the specific parts you used? Also, is opening the unit up pretty obvious how to do? I haven’t received mine yet.
And last question, just to confirm, if I have cdr24, definitely no Bose or even sound package plus, I can and should just use my existing harness, correct? It makes sense not to use all the Bose parts, Most unit, etc., which I would’ve done prior to your post since I’d have just followed the install guide here / YouTube install guide. So thanks for that, too!
And last question, just to confirm, if I have cdr24, definitely no Bose or even sound package plus, I can and should just use my existing harness, correct? It makes sense not to use all the Bose parts, Most unit, etc., which I would’ve done prior to your post since I’d have just followed the install guide here / YouTube install guide. So thanks for that, too!
#1764
Thank you so much @Steve W. Because of the guide on here this is a project i feel very comfortable DIYing, and think i can handle this extra step, too haha. For the extra technologically inept, by any chance do you have links to the specific parts you used? Also, is opening the unit up pretty obvious how to do? I haven’t received mine yet.
And last question, just to confirm, if I have cdr24, definitely no Bose or even sound package plus, I can and should just use my existing harness, correct? It makes sense not to use all the Bose parts, Most unit, etc., which I would’ve done prior to your post since I’d have just followed the install guide here / YouTube install guide. So thanks for that, too!
And last question, just to confirm, if I have cdr24, definitely no Bose or even sound package plus, I can and should just use my existing harness, correct? It makes sense not to use all the Bose parts, Most unit, etc., which I would’ve done prior to your post since I’d have just followed the install guide here / YouTube install guide. So thanks for that, too!
Also agree that if you have parts used that’d be great.
#1765
So for everyone asking about the relocation of the port, it's pretty basic. Below are the internals of the unit as it comes when you open it. You see a black header cable that plugs in to the main board where circled, to another plug right behind the front USB port. That circled connection where you see the red/white/green/black wires is the main connection port for the front USB/CarPlay port. When you plug into the front USB port, the header cable basically brings that over to the main board connection header:
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.
Thank you so much...
Last edited by jgoga; 03-24-2023 at 10:23 AM.
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#1766
Rerouting usb 1/2 via the main connector on the motherboard
So for everyone asking about the relocation of the port, it's pretty basic. Below are the internals of the unit as it comes when you open it. You see a black header cable that plugs in to the main board where circled, to another plug right behind the front USB port. That circled connection where you see the red/white/green/black wires is the main connection port for the front USB/CarPlay port. When you plug into the front USB port, the header cable basically brings that over to the main board connection header:
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.
#1767
PCCM new Antenna Amplifiers
Hi everybody,
as I installed a 3rd party Android unit to my 997.1 (about a year ago) I now would like to use the existing window antennas for DAB+ (Germany).
So can somebody provide the partnumbers of the two new antenna amplifiers/splitter wich come with the PCCM plus of the 997.
Thank you guys 😎
... before PCCM, but wireless CarPlay
as I installed a 3rd party Android unit to my 997.1 (about a year ago) I now would like to use the existing window antennas for DAB+ (Germany).
So can somebody provide the partnumbers of the two new antenna amplifiers/splitter wich come with the PCCM plus of the 997.
Thank you guys 😎
... before PCCM, but wireless CarPlay
#1768
So for everyone asking about the relocation of the port, it's pretty basic. Below are the internals of the unit as it comes when you open it. You see a black header cable that plugs in to the main board where circled, to another plug right behind the front USB port. That circled connection where you see the red/white/green/black wires is the main connection port for the front USB/CarPlay port. When you plug into the front USB port, the header cable basically brings that over to the main board connection header:
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.
Or - do we have two fully functional USB ports? I am not too clear from reading it...Sorry.
Last edited by Amge63; 03-24-2023 at 02:52 PM. Reason: Clarification
#1769
Advanced
So for everyone asking about the relocation of the port, it's pretty basic. Below are the internals of the unit as it comes when you open it. You see a black header cable that plugs in to the main board where circled, to another plug right behind the front USB port. That circled connection where you see the red/white/green/black wires is the main connection port for the front USB/CarPlay port. When you plug into the front USB port, the header cable basically brings that over to the main board connection header:
#1770
So for everyone asking about the relocation of the port, it's pretty basic. Below are the internals of the unit as it comes when you open it. You see a black header cable that plugs in to the main board where circled, to another plug right behind the front USB port. That circled connection where you see the red/white/green/black wires is the main connection port for the front USB/CarPlay port. When you plug into the front USB port, the header cable basically brings that over to the main board connection header:
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.
In the pictures below, the original black header cable is replaced with two new cables which pass through the existing hole at the rear of the unit. A female USB cable plugs into the header port of the main board, the one that CarPlay works through. The second USB port that comes out of the rear that we already know about that comes from Plug Connection C (aka Subaru/Nissan port), a cable plugs into that and brought to front panel USB plug. Both cables are zip tied to existing holes in the side of the case ruggedize/stabilize the cables and their connections.