jumper5836

I'd pass, ticking could be also piston slap, piston tapping the head. chain stretched or rails worn out. Sounds like that engine needs to be torn apart and fixed up before she tick tocks and booms.

Cuda911

Hey all, I found another motor. It has 41,000 miles on it. Seller will send me pix and video on Wed. Apparently, it is in a car that is still running.

It's $1,000 more than the Texas motor, but 16,000 fewer miles. It doesn't have LN IMSB (as far as I know), but I can pull the LN IMSB out of my motor and swap them. I don't have any history on the car, since it was bought by a guy who buys salvage cars and then he sell the misc. parts.

What do you all think? Is the 16,000 fewer miles worth it? I know that the Texas car was well-maintained (and has LN IMSB installed) until the accident, but no maint. records are available for the other motor.

Thanks in advance.

kon5t

Definitely!

Ahsai

Sounds like good news! Install a new LN bearing on the new motor though. Should be minimal labor with engine out anyway. The LN bearing (or other brands) can only be installed once AFAIK.

Rubik

Go for it.

c4racer

Ya I would do the IMS but don't reuse a bearing. It probably won't seat properly more than once.

RaginBull

These guys are right down the road from me. They sell salvaged motors for $7 - 8K.


https://www.partsheaven.com/

Barn996

Fingers crossed for you Cuda...

TSMacNeil

If that's the motor on the Pelican boards it seems like a better choice for an extra $1k IMO

Flat6 Innovations

Thats the problem with dealing with companies like ARP. Do all the development, spend all the time and money to work out their issues, then they sell them to anyone. It gets really old, really quick.

KrazyK

Jake , I know that's bad for you but its good for the consumer. The Summit price puts them more in the range for the average guy than the $250 retail price. A developer should get their money/fee then wash their hands of it. It's impossible for you to compete with huge companies as a retailer. For instance, if Walmart became a Porsche specialist, you would quickly be out of business. I don't necessarily think its good, its just the free market.

Flat6 Innovations

KrazyK, you couldn't be more wrong on this one. This is not good for the consumer, because it just means things in the future will be more protected, making them more expensive. Already we have had to change the way that we are working with others in regard to developing things for them.

Originally BMW rod bolts were being modified to fit the M96 rods, we had to measure housing bore sizes with various torques and work all of it out so they'd work. At that point the decision was made to take those specs and make an application specific ARP bolt for the M96 rod. There was no interest in making an M96 rod bolt when we started all of this with M96 engines. We were laughed at, but that was the standard back then.

Nothing in this industry is more expensive than development.

KrazyK

Jake Im agreeing with you but you cant expect companies like Summit, Jegs, whoever to not carry products like ARP regardless of the engine aplication. I don't think they consider the R&D behind it or even care. Are you saying you want to keep all your R&D for yourself? Didn't you go through the same thing with the bearings, oil. etc? If Summit decided to carry IMSB's surely they would be cheaper than LNE's? Your advantage is that the M96 market is miniscule to them.

Flat6 Innovations

Let's not go there. It'll spiral this thread into no where. Not the time or the place.

mklein9

This dynamic plays out in every industry. Jake is perfectly right to carefully manage the distribution of the result of his R&D (which I agree is often the most expensive part of producing unique, complex, low volume products). Summit and others are perfectly right to find the best way for them to distribute products whether they feel that a lower price will be made up for by volume, or not. The right balance isn't easy to strike, but you do know that if you completely miss it, you go out of business, so it's reasonable to err on the side of staying in business.

I see this every day at my company, which produces a very low volume, highly specialized technical instrument that, if we could sell 100 times as many, would probably cost 1/10 as much. Virtually all the cost of the instrument at current volumes is amortized R&D.