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Here you go. A breakdown of howtoporsche.com production numbers. The first grid shows production by generation and models. The second grid shows the aggregate total by model. Gen-1 is production from 1997-2001. Gen-2 is production from 2002-2005.
You can see why there are so many 996.1 C2 Coupes, C2 Cabs and C4 Coupes for sale on BAT; as well as 996.2 C4S and C2 Cabs. There are a lot of them.
Not certain why there are so many 40th anniversary cars for sale. Folks should be holding on to them.
Those are world-wide production numbers. So, how many 40th Anniversary cars actually made it to North America?
Those are world-wide production numbers. So, how many 40th Anniversary cars actually made it to North America?
No clue but they are out there.
Looks like there are a few threads on the topic here on RL. Maybe someone has the analysis they can post or track down the data. It would be helpful to also have a more concrete separation of the 2000 Millennium and 2004 40th numbers from regular C2 coupes. Not to mention identify the number of factory X51 packages in non special edition cars. They are out there. Buddy of mine had one in his 996.2 coupe.
Funny how actual numbers paint an interesting story. And in many cases the markets haven't yet heard the story.
We want to see all 996s go up in value. Every single generation and model. But there are hidden gems that the market doesn't realize.
1. 40th anniversary
2. 996.2 coupes
And many others. It's now time for the market to broaden in its awareness for what is actually out there beyond 996.1 C2 coupes and C2 cabs, as well as 996.2 C4S and C2 Cabs.
Still can't get over how many turbos have been produced.
A plethora of models and enjoyment. But remember, BAT, PCar, etc, are showing us that many owners of various models just aren't selling. Why? Because it's not a transaction for them, it's a car they love. Those models are the ones you want.
Add: This thread isn't about Pump-N-Dump, it's should be about Educate-N-Appreciate the many variations of the 996.
Worth mentioning that even though 1963 40AE cars were produced, only 800 were designated for the US market, technically making it even more rare. Furthermore, we don't really know if all 1963 cars were actually produced. Our registry has done a fantastic job keeping track but there is definitely quite a few cars unaccounted for. Pretty sure they were built once ordered and Porsche didn't go and produce all 1963 all at once.
I believe we are seeing a wave of 40 Jahre sales because the prices escalated very quickly on them in BaT. Owners of the past 5 years are happy to realize their gaines. Hard not to sell for $60k if you paid $30k.
I'd imagine the new owners will be less eager to sell and the number of 40 Jahre sales will dwindle soon.
For anyone interested, you can see a well ran registry with lists of accounted for cars world wide which can provide some more insights and actual data - https://www.40jahre911.com/the-registry-car-lists
I believe we are seeing a wave of 40 Jahre sales because the prices escalated very quickly on them in BaT. Owners of the past 5 years are happy to realize their gaines. Hard not to sell for $60k if you paid $30k.
I'd imagine the new owners will be less eager to sell and the number of 40 Jahre sales will dwindle soon.
I think you nailed it.
I know I sound like a broken record, but we are experiencing a Rennasaince in new solutions for the 996 that have or will be coming to the market that address the engine failure issues for not only the 996 M96 engine, but also the 986/987/997 engines. IMSB, AOS, Oil Starvation & Pressure Instability, Oil cooling, etc.
Sooner or later, current owners and future owner will realize that all issues can be mitigated and controlled with the right bolt-on parts and service. And the risks to the unsuspecting purchaser can be mitigated with a borescope, PPI and service record history.
Let the 996 Rennasaince in awareness, solutions and prices continue!
Here you go. A breakdown of howtoporsche.com production numbers. The first grid shows production by generation and models. The second grid shows the aggregate total by model. Gen-1 is production from 1997-2001. Gen-2 is production from 2002-2005.
You can see why there are so many 996.1 C2 Coupes, C2 Cabs and C4 Coupes for sale on BAT; as well as 996.2 C4S and C2 Cabs. There are a lot of them.
Not certain why there are so many 40th anniversary cars for sale. Folks should be holding on to them.
I want to point out there are no 996.1 Turbos. All 996 Turbos are 996.2 cars, even those made in 2001. I suspect the "Gen 1 C4S" is the same, a few pre-production cars made in 2001 that are actually 996.2's. It looks like the data on this chart was separated by the 2001 to 2002 model year change which isn't completely correct.
I want to point out there are no 996.1 Turbos. All 996 Turbos are 996.2 cars, even those made in 2001. I suspect the "Gen 1 C4S" is the same, a few pre-production cars made in 2001 that are actually 996.2's. It looks like the data on this chart was separated by the 2001 to 2002 model year change which isn't completely correct.
I suspect there are quite a few inaccuracies. I took the data straight from the website by year calling 1997-2001 Gen-1 and 2002-2005 Gen-2.
Same lack of accurate definition can be said for X50 and x51 packages and differentiation of the numbers they list for the Millennium and 40th AE.
Hopefully folks that have more accurate data as well as US data can take a swipe at it to produce a more definitive presentation of the numbers.
02-02-2022, 04:40 AM
