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Old 10-17-2021, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by stevensivak
You can't undo a major frontal crash with some better caulk...
Agree. I wouldn't want anything to do with this car, regardless if it was a "deal", whatever that means in a car that has had major structural repair. These cars are too finicky with alignment and they read like an open book when it comes to setup - I'd be paranoid about every little shimmy and shake. My car had no stories and it still took some effort to dial out all the little annoying quirks and get the steering/handling perfect.
Old 10-17-2021, 11:40 AM
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Looks like the Seller has gone radio silent and, despite the subtle warnings in the comments, a new bidder has actually bid 🤦🏽‍♂️

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Old 10-17-2021, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 403portside
Looks like the Seller has gone radio silent despite the subtle warnings in the comments, and a new bidder has actually bid 🤦🏽‍♂️
A fool and his money...
Old 10-17-2021, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rk-d
A fool and his money...
This is where it feels like BaT and Pcar are very different. I feel like a silent seller in this situation on BaT would get eviscerated in the comments and bidding would stop. Doesn’t seem so on Pcar.
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Old 10-17-2021, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 403portside
This is where it feels like BaT and Pcar are very different. I feel like a silent seller in this situation on BaT would get eviscerated in the comments and bidding would stop. Doesn’t seem so on Pcar.

I'm fairly certain this auction would have been ruthlessly exposed on BaT.
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Old 10-17-2021, 01:17 PM
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I’m sure several rennlisters have a direct line into David - the owner of PCarmarket and CCS motors. Anyone can call or email and share what is known about any cars history to see how it is handled.

David Jacobson, President/CEO of PCARMARKET said, “The passion and experience we have for the Porsche brand is powerful but we believe the strength of PCARMARKET lies in the ability to help buyers and sellers do business in an exciting, safe, and efficient way.”


James Barry, SVP said “We have purposefully laid out an initial plan to add between 2-6 vehicles daily as opposed to loading hundreds of Porsches all at once. Our plan is to build PCARMARKET on a strong foundation that will become a trusted and valuable resource”.


“Trusted” “Safe”

Pcarmarket is just the facilitator. Their listings are only as good as what the seller discloses. The question is: what action is taken when they know they have non-disclosure?


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Old 10-17-2021, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by stevensivak
You can't undo a major frontal crash with some better caulk...
If that's in response to me, that's not what I said.
Old 10-17-2021, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
^ I think yes, at some price it's worthwhile. If I were in the market I would buy it with the intention of fixing it correctly. So if the purchase price exceeded the cushion to do so I would pass.

Seems too good of a car otherwise to leave it as-is
I'd agree. Cars, however rarer, are at the end commodities and they always have a fair price.
On one end are buyers, many represented here, saying they won't touch this thing. Of course those w/ means can afford to be discriminating.
On the other end are those who long to own a WB but w/ budget maxing out on the high 5-figures and are willing to take a probably troubled but low-mileage specimen at 40%-50% discount to market.
I'd say the current bid at low 6-figure is frothy, but at $80k max + $4k auction fee, that's not a bad deal.
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Old 10-17-2021, 03:43 PM
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^ Agreed. Probably wouldn't be at it's current bid with the photos added that we've seen here.

And by "intention of fixing it correctly", I meant doing just that. Cutting the front end back off if it and doing it well, correctly. Not slathering it with different caulk.

Of course I'm happy to have a non squished/repaired car but would I take one on at the right price? For sure.
Old 10-17-2021, 05:06 PM
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So…..let’s address the Elephant in the room…. Wouldn’t this car have a “R Title”? How was it Title washed?
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Likely was just repaired without getting insurance or the police involved.
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Does anyone know the seller?
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Originally Posted by Paolo1
Does anyone know the seller?
Appears to be Lamborghini Paramus aka Gaswerks Garage from the photos.
Mmorganstein is seller - he works for Lambo Paramus based on their website

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Old 10-17-2021, 08:49 PM
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This is getting interesting. No reply by seller to a question as to whether any panels have been replaced and now a request for photos of the frunk area with the carpet pulled back. We shall see if honesty prevails.
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I appreciate the passive aggressive user name on this one.




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