993 WB Values are UP!!!
10-19-2021, 07:47 PM
#1441
Originally Posted by autobonrun
Yes.
I think I will place an ad for a “young technician”. It will be listed in the classifieds under “skapegoat wanted”.
This is management 101 at its worst. I’ve had to stand in front of clients before and explain errors. Although it was obvious to all who made the mistake, we always said “we made an error”.
After being brought to their attention, this seller should have said his team that bought the car never lifted the carpet in front (giving them the benefit of the doubt here). Then pull the auction and have the repair reviewed and necessary fixes made. Return it later with full disclosure. Now this could harm his name on that platform.
Wasn’t necessary.
I think I will place an ad for a “young technician”. It will be listed in the classifieds under “skapegoat wanted”.
This is management 101 at its worst. I’ve had to stand in front of clients before and explain errors. Although it was obvious to all who made the mistake, we always said “we made an error”.
After being brought to their attention, this seller should have said his team that bought the car never lifted the carpet in front (giving them the benefit of the doubt here). Then pull the auction and have the repair reviewed and necessary fixes made. Return it later with full disclosure. Now this could harm his name on that platform.
Wasn’t necessary.
10-19-2021, 07:49 PM
#1442
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10-19-2021, 08:38 PM
#1444
Would say it also hurts the reputation of the platform. Not that any offer any guarantees or claims of quality vehicles etc. BUT now that there is obvious misinformation and not full disclosure, the platform should remove the listing and ensure it's properly represented before relisting.
I'm sure they are shielded from liability but they ought to exercise some reasonable care about the auctions they present. The very strong impression is that there was an intention to deceive with this auction. Honest mistake or not, the optics are terrible. If it was my marketplace, I'd shut it down.
10-19-2021, 10:37 PM
#1445
Banned
Last edited by stutt911; 10-19-2021 at 10:44 PM.
10-19-2021, 10:42 PM
#1446
Banned
Buy the seller holds true. Tarek is solid, personally know several who have bought from him and are very happy. Few months ago we were at the Flying L event and there were 3 of Tarek’s recent customers with wide body 993s as happy as ever parked side by side trying to barter Fister mufflers off one another lol.
10-19-2021, 11:25 PM
#1447
- Year: 1997
- Make: Porsche
- Model: 911 Carrera 2S
- VIN: WP0AA2998VS322993
- Mileage: 21,737
- Transmission: Manual
- Title Status: Clean
- Color: Black
- Seller: mmorganstein
- Seller Type: Dealer
- Location: Paramus, NJ 07652
- just to make sure there is a record of the suspect car on Pcarmarket. My guess is that it doesn’t sell on pcarmarket and continues to float around
10-20-2021, 12:01 AM
#1448
Yes.
I think I will place an ad for a “young technician”. It will be listed in the classifieds under “skapegoat wanted”.
This is management 101 at its worst. I’ve had to stand in front of clients before and explain errors. Although it was obvious to all who made the mistake, we always said “we made an error”.
After being brought to their attention, this seller should have said his team that bought the car never lifted the carpet in front (giving them the benefit of the doubt here). Then pull the auction and have the repair reviewed and necessary fixes made. Return it later with full disclosure. Now this could harm his name on that platform.
Wasn’t necessary.
I think I will place an ad for a “young technician”. It will be listed in the classifieds under “skapegoat wanted”.
This is management 101 at its worst. I’ve had to stand in front of clients before and explain errors. Although it was obvious to all who made the mistake, we always said “we made an error”.
After being brought to their attention, this seller should have said his team that bought the car never lifted the carpet in front (giving them the benefit of the doubt here). Then pull the auction and have the repair reviewed and necessary fixes made. Return it later with full disclosure. Now this could harm his name on that platform.
Wasn’t necessary.
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10-20-2021, 09:04 AM
#1449
Racer
It's fun to make an old car go "fast", and get a little squirrely on the turns. But, it might take much longer than desired to get up to speed...and, remember it's not "new" - there are things that are going to wear out and need fixing.
It's also fun to make a newer car scream while not using half its power. And that too has its down side, unless you want everyone to hear how fast you are getting to the next red light.
Very subjective.
For me, my goal with every purchase is a "free-car" - meaning I buy it, drive it, have a blast with it, and in the end sell it for at least the amount of money I put into it (every dime, tax, insurance, maintenance, etc.)...thus...I was simply the fortunate steward that got to have fun and got my money back...and it's the next guy's turn.
Hope that helps.
Last edited by Britzky9; 10-20-2021 at 09:08 AM. Reason: Multitasking means you suck at multiple things at once. :)
10-20-2021, 09:35 AM
#1450
Absolutely. I know, for a fact, that this has soured me on pcarmarket.
I'm sure they are shielded from liability but they ought to exercise some reasonable care about the auctions they present. The very strong impression is that there was an intention to deceive with this auction. Honest mistake or not, the optics are terrible. If it was my marketplace, I'd shut it down.
I'm sure they are shielded from liability but they ought to exercise some reasonable care about the auctions they present. The very strong impression is that there was an intention to deceive with this auction. Honest mistake or not, the optics are terrible. If it was my marketplace, I'd shut it down.
Want to start a new business with the above in mind?
10-20-2021, 09:51 AM
#1451
I think you want to do a PPI for sure. To know what you are getting, what could need work right away, within first year or second and third year potential items. Odds are you are going to want to sort something out when you take ownership whether that is maintenance, replacement or modification. Trick is to find a car that fits your budget and stomach for those three things. These cars aren't cheap to do anything, unless you wrench yourself, then it's more reasonable. Knowing what you are getting plays into the fun you will have big time. Nobody likes bad surprises. Those three things I mention will also eat into your fun time, don't recall where you live as I type this, but depending on your driving season and the work to be done, will take driving time away. Then I would say, these cars will always need something or you will always want to do something to them that fits those three categories. Maintenance is a given (I hope for all).
On my 930, which had mechanical and exterior restoration, it still had some sorting to be done that caused drivability issues. This was in December 2019 into 2020. Not a big issue. Then this Spring, I needed to replace the alternator. Again not a big deal but speaks to the point of there might always be something as these are old cars and parts start to fail. One thing I am starting to do on the 930 is to just proactively replace critical things. Will be doing the fuel system in the Spring. If I had the budget, I would just do it all at once.
My approach with my aircooleds has been to buy the best I can afford. Ideally something with lower mileage as I like to be the one putting the miles on the car.
Last edited by SToronto; 10-20-2021 at 09:55 AM.
10-20-2021, 09:56 AM
#1452
Rennlist Member
This 993S Auction has been withdrawn
See the site for complete Pcar reply but here is an excerpt:
“As a result, we will be withdrawing the auction.
We may allow the car to run a new 7 day auction which would allow bidders the time to perform a proper PPI at an independent shop.
Once again, thank you all for your comments. A true community has been created here. We greatly appreciate all of you.”
“As a result, we will be withdrawing the auction.
We may allow the car to run a new 7 day auction which would allow bidders the time to perform a proper PPI at an independent shop.
Once again, thank you all for your comments. A true community has been created here. We greatly appreciate all of you.”
10-20-2021, 10:00 AM
#1453
Burning Brakes
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Last edited by stevensivak; 10-20-2021 at 10:04 AM.
10-20-2021, 10:09 AM
#1454
This morning I posted a comment - "Pcarmarket please outline what the strict ethical guidelines are for sellers". It has been deleted and they posted all comments to Pcarmarket should be sent to the help desk.
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10-20-2021, 10:13 AM
#1455
Burning Brakes
What about:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-carrera-s-36/
This is how you spend money on a car and then get less for it
then if you had not made any mods....
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-carrera-s-36/
This is how you spend money on a car and then get less for it
then if you had not made any mods....
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