992.2 Info
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If you are in Europe for a Base cab you can get an allocation for July production and you will get the car in late August.
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@silversurfer6 , any information on powertrain changes for the .2 GT3 you can share? With significant improvements to the GTS ring time, I start to wonder if the other variants will begin stealing some of the GT3's thunder but it's hard for me to imagine that that powertrain has much left to wring out of it.
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Don't shoot the messenger, just sharing what I've been told. I just assume someone working for the company would be privy to info most of us don't have access to 🤷♂️.
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Power / weight ratio of 7.7. So 50kg to 100kg = 110 to 220 lbs. Assuming no weight savings elsewhere that would imply new Power / Weight ratio of 6.9 to 7.1. Slightly better than the 992.1 GTS at 7.3.
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Are you in EU? Dealers have access to their internal configurator now. Even if you cannot do this then visit the dealer on the 28th lock the car and you will get it late summer - if you are in europe of course and if no delays. If July production means the car specs will lock around mid June so you have time.
If you are in Europe for a Base cab you can get an allocation for July production and you will get the car in late August.
If you are in Europe for a Base cab you can get an allocation for July production and you will get the car in late August.
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If all this car has is the e-Turbo unit, if there is no additional electric drive motor - is it really a "hybrid"? I think it's a stretch to even call it a hybrid unless it has an electric motor in the drivetrain. It's just an ICE car with an electric turbo.
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When I reviewed the specs of the GTS and the S both had the T-HEV word next to them - this is what I have in my notes also. I assumed this meant 400V. But this is something that I need to confirm again because actually your post makes sense. So far I have not seen confirmed that 48V is to be used and only 400V was being discussed but maybe Porsche is calling both T-HEV?
Thinking out loud: the Wagner e-turbo can use both 48V or 400V (and 800V in racing). If porsche will also produce a 48V car and calls both the 48V and 400V T-HEV then we need to find out what goes in the S and what in the GTS.
I will try to find out since this is quite important and I do not have more info on this. It seems the time has come that when you buy a new 911 you have to check the e-turbo voltage
Thinking out loud: the Wagner e-turbo can use both 48V or 400V (and 800V in racing). If porsche will also produce a 48V car and calls both the 48V and 400V T-HEV then we need to find out what goes in the S and what in the GTS.
I will try to find out since this is quite important and I do not have more info on this. It seems the time has come that when you buy a new 911 you have to check the e-turbo voltage
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I think the S /GTS 520/541 hp is indeed too close.
Even If the GTS is 10K more expensive than S , it is still a harder proposition to swing more money for 21 more hp. (Today the base-price for 992.1 GTS is about 15K more than base-price for S. And GTS has 35 more hp (479 hp vs 443ho)).
But all of these still speculation absent of Porsche comment. I have a feeling Porsche intentionally not say anything. I think we will find out the definitive spec of S vs GTS at the May 28th reveal.
Even If the GTS is 10K more expensive than S , it is still a harder proposition to swing more money for 21 more hp. (Today the base-price for 992.1 GTS is about 15K more than base-price for S. And GTS has 35 more hp (479 hp vs 443ho)).
But all of these still speculation absent of Porsche comment. I have a feeling Porsche intentionally not say anything. I think we will find out the definitive spec of S vs GTS at the May 28th reveal.
Yes percentage wise the gap would be even smaller. Many reviewers have commented the 992.1 GTS didn’t deliver a performance delta commensurate with the price delta. Not saying they’re right but that was a very common observation. I would bet the S isn’t 520 HP based on that.
For a 992.1 spec I optioned an S and a GTS almost exactly the same, and the different was around $3k more for the GTS... a car that is undeniably faster and retains its value better. So for 3k (around 5% more) you're getting 20-30HP more, it is definitely worth it (if you want the included options of course - not everyone does)
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I have a feeling that on the 28th we will hear nothing about the Carrera S though and it makes sense. Porsche will probably only concentrate on the two launching models (Base and GTS)
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Very interesting technologies for sure.
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Thanks for all your info. I still believe what you said is true, the ICE only Manual will only be available for the Turbo and GT3. It makes financial sense for Porsche and a good way to say goodbye to the manual for good with the intro of the 994
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Even the Cayenne GTS only recently got added to the lineup, as did the Taycan GTS.
More interestingly, are we going to see a 992 Carrera GT that takes everything to 11 ? Or will it simply be the long overdue GT2RS... exciting, even if they're way out of my budget range.
