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Old May 15, 2024 | 03:06 PM
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Yes, Porsche made the announcement - the 28th is on. I assume it will be streamed, not sure of the time (US) for it.

Digital world premiere on May 28 at 9 a.m. EST (15:00 CEST)
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Old May 15, 2024 | 03:13 PM
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They invited @silversurfer6 onstage to honor his contributions to this thread - or maybe it’s a ruse so they can throw him in Porsche prison!

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Old May 15, 2024 | 03:41 PM
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My dealer just received allocations for the 992.2 series. However, they do not know for what variants. FYI.
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Old May 15, 2024 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jhardy
I am super interested in what the price increase will look like. Look what Aston did with the Vantage - monster increase. Hopefully Porsche doesn’t do the same. A well equipped S getting close to $200K USD just feels crazy to me.
Unfortunately it looks bad. They have just increased the cayenne price between 5-10% in Europe. This is the second increase from the launch last in July last year.

Seems the biggest increase is in the UK but I will confirm.

I am not sure how this is associated with the 911 but somehow it should.




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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chicagomarketing
My dealer just received allocations for the 992.2 series. However, they do not know for what variants. FYI.
They announced the .1 GTS in June of 2021 and I put down a deposit July 2021. And no allocations were handed out until early November 2021.


But they haven’t even announced the .2 GTS and allocations are already being handed out?
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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jhardy
Made the exact same decision. The non SD redesigned bumpers don’t look dramatically different so styling wise it’s a wash. I’m sure new S will be a bit faster but I bet new base price will be $140K or so. ADMs will run rampant too at least in SoCal. Amazing the price increases that Porsche has gotten away with but plenty of willing buyers. I guess the price increases at least help stem depreciation of the 992.1. But at what point do buyers start eyeing a used Ferrari Roma for example vs a 992.2 new GTS or even a 992.2 S - these prices are getting closer.

Why would you go from the car everyone wants to the car you’re forced to buy because no one wants it in order to get a co allocation for the car you do want?
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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:10 PM
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Amazing that they can keep pumping the price increases on the SUVs, especially since everything that you read says that owners who trade in 1-2 year old Cayennes/Macans are getting hammered on the trade-ins. Slowly these are become lease only vehicles to allow for a fixed depreciation trajectory, and let Porsche deal with the secondary market for selling them CPO or at auction.
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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:12 PM
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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
They announced the .1 GTS in June of 2021 and I put down a deposit July 2021. And no allocations were handed out until early November 2021.


But they haven’t even announced the .2 GTS and allocations are already being handed out?
Yeah, why not?
I’ve had mine since last November. I put nearly the price of the car down. So that’s technically my “ADM” since it’s money I’m not making investments or interest on.

That’s the difference between “we will put your name down” and a phone call same day saying “lets finalize your spec so we can officially summit it” when the actual orders open.
Dealer depending I suppose.

But yeah, for “official” allocations, I’ve yet to hear anything about that.

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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by alaris
When I started thinking about ordering a new 911 in 2019, it started at $92k (991.2). Now we’re at $114k ahead of the 992.2 announcement. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the base price crest $120k, but probably not $130.

So that’s 22k in five years. But once optioned out, to get a manual the way I want it, real MSRP has increased by what seems like double that number.
coincidentally, the 23.9% increase in base MSRP is quite similar to an inflation calculator showing that $1 in 2019 had the buying power of $1.25 today...
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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
They announced the .1 GTS in June of 2021 and I put down a deposit July 2021. And no allocations were handed out until early November 2021.


But they haven’t even announced the .2 GTS and allocations are already being handed out?
Q the I have a 992.2 allocation (locks in two weeks, super excited dream car with pts) but should I wait for the 99x to protect myself from depreciation threads.
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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
Why would you go from the car everyone wants to the car you’re forced to buy because no one wants it in order to get a co allocation for the car you do want?
I don't follow...which car does no one want? The 992.1 S? Porsche Newport just sold a couple with $10K ADMs so I wouldn't call that "no one" wanting it lol. If presented a 992.1 vs. a 992.2 side by side and the 992.2 is 510 HP / eTurbo but also weighs 100-200 lbs more + costs $10K+ more (ignoring wait time) I would 100% buy a 992.1 each time. Maybe I'm in the minority (probably).
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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:21 PM
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You buy the used Roma (which no one wants), to get an allocation for a 296. That's how Ferrari works.
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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jhardy
I don't follow...which car does no one want? The 992.1 S? Porsche Newport just sold a couple with $10K ADMs so I wouldn't call that "no one" wanting it lol. If presented a 992.1 vs. a 992.2 side by side and the 992.2 is 510 HP / eTurbo but also weighs 100-200 lbs more + costs $10K+ more (ignoring wait time) I would 100% buy a 992.1 each time. Maybe I'm in the minority (probably).
I agree that having something now built to my spec and knowing it will come w/ a manual is better than waiting 12+ months or more and not knowing what I can spec or how much it will cost was a deciding factor. I can drive it for a year and see where the market shakes out and have the pleasure of driving this outdated .1. Wasn’t a difficult decision in the end.
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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:57 PM
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I'd buy a 992.1 over 992.2...
-At the same price
-Even if the 992.2 is meaningfully more powerful (assuming it is electrified)

I like the look of 992.1 more, I like the analog tach, I strongly dislike an electrified drivetrain.

Aesthetically, some or most of the 992.2 changes look like they're in place because they had to change something. 992.1 is more coherent.

I think the biggest downside risk for the 992.1 (that no one is talking about) is that the 992.2 Carreras could get the GT3 multi-link suspension up front. That would be a meaningful difference. I guess it probably won't, given the complete lack of foreshadowing.
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