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Old 05-24-2024, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by C21ban
I do agree but his question was related to whether it will still have the LeMans key as many have stated or will it be replaced with Stop/Start button
Isn’t the idea behind the “LeMans” key more to do with the position (to the left of the steering wheel) than the fact that you need to turn it to start the car? So a Start/Stop button, on the left, would capture that concept/reason in spirit? Just one more layer removed from the original LeMans car concept.

FWIW, I do like turning the “key” grommet vs a pressing a button.
Old 05-24-2024, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Stinson
… boost buildup is it’s own sensation and can be subjectively “fun” just like any other aspect of a car.
I quite like modern, high performance, high displacement turbo motors. Dare I say that I prefer them for their flexibility?
Old 05-24-2024, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pal
Isn’t the idea behind the “LeMans” key more to do with the position (to the left of the steering wheel) than the fact that you need to turn it to start the car? So a Start/Stop button, on the left, would capture that concept/reason in spirit? Just one more layer removed from the original LeMans car concept.

FWIW, I do like turning the “key” grommet vs a pressing a button.
I agree.
Old 05-24-2024, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pal
Isn’t the idea behind the “LeMans” key more to do with the position (to the left of the steering wheel) than the fact that you need to turn it to start the car? So a Start/Stop button, on the left, would capture that concept/reason in spirit? Just one more layer removed from the original LeMans car concept.

FWIW, I do like turning the “key” grommet vs a pressing a button.
Once you find out what the real reason behind the key being on the left is, you won't really care where it's placed anymore. Hint: Nothing to do with Le Mans.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1136...l#post15741497

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Old 05-24-2024, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OncPorsche
"99% of people look at a 911 and think it's a weird VW beetle"

one of the weirder things i have ever read on any forum - might not be a person in the world that sees a 911 and thinks what you posted
@OncPorsche only Jeremy Clarkson...



But then again, he is the OG Shaved Ape...

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Old 05-24-2024, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ikone
Once you find out what the real reason behind the key being on the left is, you won't really care where it's placed anymore. Hint: Nothing to do with Le Mans.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1136...l#post15741497
Thanks for that link, and I have to agree with Al.Fresco on that thread,

That story is lame. The racing story is far more sexy. Sexy always beats lame.”

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Old 05-24-2024, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pal
Thanks for that link, and I have to agree with Al.Fresco on that thread,

That story is lame. The racing story is far more sexy. Sexy always beats lame.”

😅
Same old Porsche.

It's still the reason to this day that the 992 911 still does not have double wishbones in the front.
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Old 05-24-2024, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Same old Porsche.

It's still the reason to this day that the 992 911 still does not have double wishbones in the front.
why?
Old 05-24-2024, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Billy Bluejay
why?
To save money and wishbones are rare, let alone double wishbones?
Old 05-24-2024, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RG88
To save money and wishbones are rare, let alone double wishbones?
The Mazda Miata uses a double wishbone.

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Old 05-24-2024, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Haros
The Mazda Miata uses a double wishbone.
Maybe for the Miata saving money isn't top of mind? But to be fair both nations suffered shortages post war, but only one brand continues the heritage and staying true to the roots
Old 05-24-2024, 05:19 PM
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A little bit more intel from a brand ambassador I've talked to for a while, to be taken with a grain of salt as usual:

"Regarding the new one, Porsche will be revealing the first two variants of the .2, it will be the base and the GTS, the big part of the reveal will be a non-plug in hybrid version of the GTS. There is very little info on the Turbos, we know they will be dropping the Turbo and only offer the Turbo S and may be a hybrid variant of that. I have not heard anything about a manual rwd Turbo. They did that in this last run of 911s with the Sport Classic, that was the RWD manual version. There is a very big secret that is not fully confirmed but I will say I do believe it will be coming, they designed a 3.4L naturally aspirated one that is coming that will be a new trim level."


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Originally Posted by paxton
A little bit more intel from a brand ambassador I've talked to for a while, to be taken with a grain of salt as usual:

"Regarding the new one, Porsche will be revealing the first two variants of the .2, it will be the base and the GTS, the big part of the reveal will be a non-plug in hybrid version of the GTS. There is very little info on the Turbos, we know they will be dropping the Turbo and only offer the Turbo S and may be a hybrid variant of that. I have not heard anything about a manual rwd Turbo. They did that in this last run of 911s with the Sport Classic, that was the RWD manual version. There is a very big secret that is not fully confirmed but I will say I do believe it will be coming, they designed a 3.4L naturally aspirated one that is coming that will be a new trim level."
Totaling speculating but this “secret” car could fill the gap between the 400bhp base and 510bhp.

Based on the eturbos and the manual non s turbo and now this low possibility NA car this could be one of the most technology interesting launch of new 911s in the last years.
Old 05-24-2024, 06:08 PM
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I want the NA variant that’s not $300k.
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Old 05-24-2024, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by paxton
A little bit more intel from a brand ambassador I've talked to for a while, to be taken with a grain of salt as usual:

"Regarding the new one, Porsche will be revealing the first two variants of the .2, it will be the base and the GTS, the big part of the reveal will be a non-plug in hybrid version of the GTS. There is very little info on the Turbos, we know they will be dropping the Turbo and only offer the Turbo S and may be a hybrid variant of that. I have not heard anything about a manual rwd Turbo. They did that in this last run of 911s with the Sport Classic, that was the RWD manual version. There is a very big secret that is not fully confirmed but I will say I do believe it will be coming, they designed a 3.4L naturally aspirated one that is coming that will be a new trim level."
The last 3.4L was the 996 with 296BHP
They would have to add hybrid or something to make this anything close to todays 992's


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