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Old 05-25-2024, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ksdaoski
"We have more grip"

So is that from new tires or new double wishbone front suspension?
If true, that’s awesome, and a bummer for us .1 peeps.
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Old 05-25-2024, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 22992
really puts things in perspective when we all quibble about how fast or not fast these cars are and the difference between trims. Some of the best drivers in the world demand cages to push these things. That probably means us mortals really shouldn’t care that much after a certain level of performance or try to get anywhere close to the limits of even the slowest 911
Well said, 100% accurate.


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If true, that’s awesome, and a bummer for us .1 peeps.

Agreed, and that alone would probably be enough to make me abandon my dot one. Spike, Seinfeld, and Lieberman swear that the double wishbone suspension is what makes the 992 GT cars so amazing, especially in comparison to the non-GT models.

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Old 05-25-2024, 11:21 AM
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We will have answers to our speculation on Tuesday, I hope.
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Old 05-25-2024, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TUD
Or a hybrid motor up front?
No definitely not in the front, Porsche has future-proofed the 992 model for hybridisation, using a re-engineered eight-speed PDK transmission from the Panamera that’s got a space in it for an electric motor.
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Old 05-25-2024, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TUD
Agreed, and that alone would probably be enough to make me abandon my dot one. Spike, Seinfeld, and Lieberman swear that the double wishbone suspension is what makes the 992 GT cars so amazing, especially in comparison to the non-GT models.
I wouldn’t go as far as “abandoning” my dot one. I’d feel bad for a while, nit pick some things on the dot two, and forget about it when I’m behind the wheel of my dot one Gee Tee Ess.

Progress is inevitable, and with cars, so is technology and pace. I appreciate that, debate it, and then enjoy my current cars until I’m good and ready for something else - and, if I like my current car, history has shown that I stick with them for a while. And feel good that some companies are making cars I desire, so I can pick them up in the future.


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Old 05-25-2024, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by melhechi
No definitely not in the front, Porsche has future-proofed the 992 model for hybridisation, using a re-engineered eight-speed PDK transmission from the Panamera that’s got a space in it for an electric motor.
I am aware, but until the 28th this thread is nothing more than a guessing game for us all. So, we will just keep kicking ideas down the road until then.
Old 05-25-2024, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TUD
I am aware, but until the 28th this thread is nothing more than a guessing game for us all. So, we will just keep kicking ideas down the road until then.

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Old 05-25-2024, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by melhechi
No definitely not in the front, Porsche has future-proofed the 992 model for hybridisation, using a re-engineered eight-speed PDK transmission from the Panamera that’s got a space in it for an electric motor.
Well, you’re not staying current on the latest speculation, gossip and untrustworthy internet rumor. Ha ha. There are three speculative theories with numerous sub-theories. The three main hybrid speculative theories floating around are: 1.) mild hybrid with electric motor in PDK (which you mention) designed to improve mpg and emissions, 2.) eTurbo to eliminate lag, maybe allow redesign of turbo system and maybe solve some intercooler issues, and 3.) the Big Mac Daddy performance hybrid system with an electric motor on the front axle. I assume Bergmeister’s comments are about the last one. Some models may get #1 while other models get #2 and/or #3 or some combination. Some models may get nothing. Sub-theories for speculation involve Le Mans key, wishbone suspension and a RWD TT with MT…….All speculation. The 992.2 rollout has more storylines than the Kennedy assassination. Again, we will hopefully know for sure on Tuesday.

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Old 05-25-2024, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
Well, you’re not staying current on the latest speculation, gossip and untrustworthy internet rumor. Ha ha. There are three speculative theories with numerous sub-theories. The three main hybrid speculative theories floating around are: 1.) mild hybrid with electric motor in PDK (which you mention) designed to improve mpg and emissions, 2.) eTurbo to eliminate lag, maybe allow redesign of turbo system and maybe solve some intercooler issues, and 3.) the Big Mac Daddy performance hybrid system with an electric motor on the front axle. I assume Bergmeister’s comments are about the last one. Some models may get #1 while other models get #2 and/or #3 or some combination. Some models may get nothing. Sub-theories for speculation involve Le Mans key, wishbone suspension and a RWD TT with MT…….All speculation. The 992.2 rollout has more storylines than the Kennedy assassination. Again, we will hopefully know for sure on Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by Fullyield
Again, we will hopefully know for sure on Tuesday.
Or at the minimum a clearer picture pertaining to the intro .2 models and left totally in the dark as to what is to come for the remaining models so we all can continue to speculate which will ultimately keep this thread alive. 🤣

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Originally Posted by Fullyield
Well, you’re not staying current on the latest speculation, gossip and untrustworthy internet rumor. Ha ha. There are three speculative theories with numerous sub-theories. The three main hybrid speculative theories floating around are: 1.) mild hybrid with electric motor in PDK (which you mention) designed to improve mpg and emissions, 2.) eTurbo to eliminate lag, maybe allow redesign of turbo system and maybe solve some intercooler issues, and 3.) the Big Mac Daddy performance hybrid system with an electric motor on the front axle. I assume Bergmeister’s comments are about the last one. Some models may get #1 while other models get #2 and/or #3 or some combination. Some models may get nothing. Sub-theories for speculation involve Le Mans key, wishbone suspension and a RWD TT with MT…….All speculation. The 992.2 rollout has more storylines than the Kennedy assassination. Again, we will hopefully know for sure on Tuesday.
Maybe #1 or #2, but I doubt it is #3 since they said it is no more than 25KG.
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I think we kinda know for sure that the new GTS is going to be a fair bit quicker than the current one, based on Ring times. It will be interesting to see how Porsche raises the performance of the dot two GT3 to stay ahead by a margin, and not simply rely on the structural differences (NA motor, double wishbones, aero, body kit).

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I’m confident I’ll be skipping over the 992.2 and keeping my .1 long term. Lost of the analog tachometer, lemans ignition key, and introducing of a hybrid engine would nearly guarantee this to be a future classic.

The only thing that will push me to a .2 would be a 6-speed manual transmission in a Turbo model a la GT2RS.
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Old 05-25-2024, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CM991
The only thing that will push me to a .2 would be a 6-speed manual transmission in a Turbo model a la GT2RS.
We know that car, if built, will be unobtanium. And, with ADMs out the wazoo, likely a cool half mil.
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Originally Posted by pal
We know that car, if built, will be unobtanium. And, with ADMs out the wazoo, likely a cool half mil.
They said the same about the GT3 Touring.


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