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05-23-2024, 11:24 PM
#1831
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05-23-2024, 11:32 PM
#1832
Three Wheelin'
Bingo. 2023 GTS manual. Very instant response in lower gears. Slight lag in higher gears (normal) and low revs. Go drive any air cooled Turbo (yawn) if you want lag. Would I prefer the response of a strong NA engine? You bet. Do I lose sleep over my car’s setup. Not a bit. Do I wish I had a base or T model instead? Hell no.
Have the same model and feel exactly the same.
05-23-2024, 11:44 PM
#1833
Burning Brakes
Thank you sir.
Finally some sense in this "lag" discussion.
People who complain about lag in modern FI cars, like the 992 911, are simply saying it because the rest of the internet is saying it. Lemmings, they are.
You want true turbo lag? Try driving a 1988 Toyota Supra. That thing had true lag, a real kick in the **** when the turbo spooled up like you wouldn't believe. Like NOS in those Fast Furious movies.
Modern turbo engines, like the 911, have so little lag that in a double blind test (between a 991 911 and a 992 911) I would venture 99% of the people couldn't discern the difference.
I will say, though, that some older Mclarens (like the 570S or 650, and even the 720) do have some of that old school turbo lag in them, but its still a far cry from the days of the 1988 Supras.
Finally some sense in this "lag" discussion.
People who complain about lag in modern FI cars, like the 992 911, are simply saying it because the rest of the internet is saying it. Lemmings, they are.
You want true turbo lag? Try driving a 1988 Toyota Supra. That thing had true lag, a real kick in the **** when the turbo spooled up like you wouldn't believe. Like NOS in those Fast Furious movies.
Modern turbo engines, like the 911, have so little lag that in a double blind test (between a 991 911 and a 992 911) I would venture 99% of the people couldn't discern the difference.
I will say, though, that some older Mclarens (like the 570S or 650, and even the 720) do have some of that old school turbo lag in them, but its still a far cry from the days of the 1988 Supras.
05-24-2024, 12:06 AM
#1834
The two hypothetical guys saying the GTS has too much power blah blah blah is the guy who couldn't get or afford a Capital T Turbo and didn't want to dip down below into a previous gen Capital T Turbo. So they say the GTS is too strong anyway. The other guy saying the same thing could not get or afford a GTS and had to settle for a base so they say the GTS is too strong anyway.
Now I wait for the next person in their own head/feelings come out and explain why they bought a GTS and how much they love it. Reason having nothing to do with the above. Insert Targa owner.
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05-24-2024, 12:12 AM
#1835
I’ll tell you why I did. I was number 19 on my dealer’s list for a GT3. I was placed second on the GTS. Got it in 6 months. No markup.
Things I love:
center lock wheels
big brakes
sport suspension
power
exhaust at full blast
Thing I wish I had:
GT3 engine
Otherwise it’s perfect.
Things I love:
center lock wheels
big brakes
sport suspension
power
exhaust at full blast
Thing I wish I had:
GT3 engine
Otherwise it’s perfect.
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05-24-2024, 12:25 AM
#1836
Burning Brakes
To say that nearly a second between going full throttle and achieving peak boost is "not noticeable" is sort of like saying you can't tell the difference between a GT3 and Carrera's steering unless you're at the track... it's just incorrect.
(And fyi, a GT3 and Carrera both equipped with RAS have a very similar on-center steering ratio, before that comes up again).
05-24-2024, 12:27 AM
#1837
Race Car
05-24-2024, 12:35 AM
#1838
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05-24-2024, 01:15 AM
#1839
People will cope in many different ways to justify their feelings and/or purchase.
The two hypothetical guys saying the GTS has too much power blah blah blah is the guy who couldn't get or afford a Capital T Turbo and didn't want to dip down below into a previous gen Capital T Turbo. So they say the GTS is too strong anyway. The other guy saying the same thing could not get or afford a GTS and had to settle for a base so they say the GTS is too strong anyway.
Now I wait for the next person in their own head/feelings come out and explain why they bought a GTS and how much they love it. Reason having nothing to do with the above. Insert Targa owner.
The two hypothetical guys saying the GTS has too much power blah blah blah is the guy who couldn't get or afford a Capital T Turbo and didn't want to dip down below into a previous gen Capital T Turbo. So they say the GTS is too strong anyway. The other guy saying the same thing could not get or afford a GTS and had to settle for a base so they say the GTS is too strong anyway.
Now I wait for the next person in their own head/feelings come out and explain why they bought a GTS and how much they love it. Reason having nothing to do with the above. Insert Targa owner.
1) Needed a manual with max available power trim
2) Needed something with 4 seats so that my kids can enjoy and I can pick and drop them at school when I had time.
3) I was the first on my dealers list, got in April 2022
4) Paid $0 ADM
5) I felt it was at a price point (at that time it started at 136,900) that I could daily it without worrying too much.
6) I absolutely don’t care about PDK even it’s made with diamonds and sprinkled with gold.
At some point I would love to get a GT3, when the right time comes.
05-24-2024, 07:13 AM
#1841
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Not in the lag discussion but now I am. I get what you are saying in this post, BUT... The 3.0 definitely has lag, even at low speeds in proper gear. Especially the higher up you go in trims which have "larger" turbochargers (S, GTS etc). I've been in several situations where in traffic I needed a quick jolt of power only to push the throttle down and nothing happens. Especially in 100+ degree weather, high density altitude, high elevation. Think trying to pull in or out of traffic with lots of congestion or some Dbag trying to cheat a zipper merge and edge you out just because they can probably squeeze in since you left an extra foot of space between yourself and the next car even though you're moving at a crawls pace and traffic will be stopped. Ive been in instances like those in 1st or second gear moving slowly and someone in an NA Cadillac edges me out because their motor was snappier than mine in that case. Even though I reacted first.
Oh and May 28th can't come soon enough.
Oh and May 28th can't come soon enough.
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05-24-2024, 07:15 AM
#1842
Burning Brakes
What’s this “normal” mode you speak of? It’s muscle memory to spin the dial immediately when I get in my car… 
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05-24-2024, 09:24 AM
#1843
Rennlist Member
I wonder what other topics this thread will delve into. Especially after the 28th. 
05-24-2024, 09:34 AM
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