Dream in PTS

Do people really prefer the pretend stick shift look? I wouldn't take it at the same cost, never mind pay more for it.

PSPorsche

I like the little shifter. It does what it supposed to and isn’t over designed or over sized for its simple purpose. It doesn’t look like a "fake" manual shift ****. I would rather use the paddles in a PDK equipped car. (Although I wish the more substantial Weissach paddles were standard).

amelen

I'd definitely pay extra for a manual shifter. When I had a Macan as a loaner recently I was surprised even that car didn't have the ability to shift gears with the gear selector.

CM991

is not a pretend stock shift look, it’s a PDK shifter that allows your to shift with the gear selector. I’d absolutely pay for it.

for me it doesn’t need to look like a manual. Just a selector that I can up shift and downshift and doesn’t depend exclusively on the paddles.

amelen

Agree 100%. That's one of the things I really miss with the Taycan Turbo honestly (along with the sound).

Bluehighways

I have to agree with the basic premise (inferred) that the reputation for high quality engineering vis-a-vis their automotive competition is misplaced. From the 1950's though the mid 1970's the performance of the 356's and early 911's, against the competition of the day, was impressive to say the least. That generated a halo that allowed others, myself included, to excuse the shortcomings. FWIW, relatively frequent engine overhauls were almost a part of the what was considered something like routine maintenance. I paid for most of my college room, board and tuition rebuilding these engines for others. Today, I'm not sure why, but that halo seems to have survived: IMS Bearing design failures and Porsche not only did it once, they did it three times before they changed the overall design of the engine. and then 2.) The Bore Scoring. When it comes to the Bore Scoring issue, thinking now about my 992, I'm not entirely confident that has been fully resolved. FWIW, it was fairly common on the 356's and early 911's had some as well. But the engines usually failed for other reasons (Rod Bearings mostly) before that became a significant issue and a new set of Pistons and Barrels was a footnote on the repair bill.
Don't get me wrong, I still like the car it's become. However if you think about it, had General Motors been the OEM, Porsche engine reputation for dependability would be right there alongside the Vega.

Defrag

dunno atm, things changed and i didnt bother for more info since premiere is less then week away. Basic carrera coming first now I heard with deliveries for summer, then gts october, but 6 months ago it was supposed to be gts > basic + s > gt3 > turbo s > targa models, ~3 months between each.

Gt3 is just 520hp I think
T + gt3 only models with manual
base is 390 or 395 hp with old 3.0 engine, s 510, gts 540, gt3 520, tops (turbo s) 710, base turbo no clue - that was initial info from ~a year ago.

silversurfer6

Yes same info as mine last sept - and as of now -, except base launches with gts but it seems there might be delays with gts production.

Good info about GT3 and Turbo S bhp. Since s and gts are confirmed to those bhp the others should be correct. Nothing has changed from that doc last year it seems.

The most important to this launch are the hybrids of course for the main models (except the base) and for the purists the turbo (non s).

Interesting series launch and models. Surely different and not boring.

Defrag

I got gts ordered, already confirmed earlier pick up is October/November

user 999993337

The gap between the base the S will be huge! Over a 100 HP, I think they should at least bring up the base into the lower to mid 400s. It nonsense to keep create that huge gap, give it more power, probably fit it with the bigger turbos that the 992.1 S had and detune it a bit.

They should also add PTV+ to it and RAS.

Gus22

So is the gt3 going from the 4L to 3.6L? Is it staying completely NA? I guess I am surprised from a power standpoint where it is going to fall compared to typically lesser trim models. I also wonder if the gt3 engine does change is it some cause for concern as the 4.0 seems to be pretty bullet proof and just a great engine.

Dream in PTS

This is not a pretend stick shift look? That's the exact reason Porsche designed it this way -- to give PDK owners the appearance of a manual. Otherwise, they could have easily provided one of a bazillion other shifter designs.

Defrag

Makes perfect sense tbh, 718 is going full electric, so base carrera will be positioned as cheaper (lets hope so), entry sports car with regular engine into porsche range, while s/gts/gt3/turbo range will be considered premium.

B194HR

It looks like the manual shifter because it’s cost effective for them to do it this way.

992.Turbo.S

It doesn’t matter which stick shifter you choose, you still can’t use it to shift between gears, it just changes the appearance.

That shifter is from the GT3 which has a different PDK that allows for shifting between gears with it.