Agree 100%. That's one of the things I really miss with the Taycan Turbo honestly (along with the sound).

 

I have to agree with the basic premise (inferred) that the reputation for high quality engineering vis-a-vis their automotive competition is misplaced. From the 1950's though the mid 1970's the performance of the 356's and early 911's, against the competition of the day, was impressive to say the least. That generated a halo that allowed others, myself included, to excuse the shortcomings. FWIW, relatively frequent engine overhauls were almost a part of the what was considered something like routine maintenance. I paid for most of my college room, board and tuition rebuilding these engines for others. Today, I'm not sure why, but that halo seems to have survived: IMS Bearing design failures and Porsche not only did it once, they did it three times before they changed the overall design of the engine. and then 2.) The Bore Scoring. When it comes to the Bore Scoring issue, thinking now about my 992, I'm not entirely confident that has been fully resolved. FWIW, it was fairly common on the 356's and early 911's had some as well. But the engines usually failed for other reasons (Rod Bearings mostly) before that became a significant issue and a new set of Pistons and Barrels was a footnote on the repair bill.
Don't get me wrong, I still like the car it's become. However if you think about it, had General Motors been the OEM, Porsche engine reputation for dependability would be right there alongside the Vega.

 

dunno atm, things changed and i didnt bother for more info since premiere is less then week away. Basic carrera coming first now I heard with deliveries for summer, then gts october, but 6 months ago it was supposed to be gts > basic + s > gt3 > turbo s > targa models, ~3 months between each.

Gt3 is just 520hp I think
T + gt3 only models with manual
base is 390 or 395 hp with old 3.0 engine, s 510, gts 540, gt3 520, tops (turbo s) 710, base turbo no clue - that was initial info from ~a year ago.

 

Yes same info as mine last sept - and as of now -, except base launches with gts but it seems there might be delays with gts production.

Good info about GT3 and Turbo S bhp. Since s and gts are confirmed to those bhp the others should be correct. Nothing has changed from that doc last year it seems.

The most important to this launch are the hybrids of course for the main models (except the base) and for the purists the turbo (non s).

Interesting series launch and models. Surely different and not boring.

 

I got gts ordered, already confirmed earlier pick up is October/November

 

The gap between the base the S will be huge! Over a 100 HP, I think they should at least bring up the base into the lower to mid 400s. It nonsense to keep create that huge gap, give it more power, probably fit it with the bigger turbos that the 992.1 S had and detune it a bit.

They should also add PTV+ to it and RAS.

 

So is the gt3 going from the 4L to 3.6L? Is it staying completely NA? I guess I am surprised from a power standpoint where it is going to fall compared to typically lesser trim models. I also wonder if the gt3 engine does change is it some cause for concern as the 4.0 seems to be pretty bullet proof and just a great engine.

 

This is not a pretend stick shift look? That's the exact reason Porsche designed it this way -- to give PDK owners the appearance of a manual. Otherwise, they could have easily provided one of a bazillion other shifter designs.

 

Makes perfect sense tbh, 718 is going full electric, so base carrera will be positioned as cheaper (lets hope so), entry sports car with regular engine into porsche range, while s/gts/gt3/turbo range will be considered premium.

 

It looks like the manual shifter because it’s cost effective for them to do it this way.

 

It doesn’t matter which stick shifter you choose, you still can’t use it to shift between gears, it just changes the appearance.

That shifter is from the GT3 which has a different PDK that allows for shifting between gears with it.

 

If you believe head of GT division Andreas Preuninger, this is exactly the reason why the 982/992 GT cars retained the center console forward gear selector feature on PDK cars. While Porsche corporate wants to force customers to utilize the paddles. Andreas stated that he sometimes preferred to use the lever and knows that some customers do as well.

 

I for one enjoy shifting with the lever vs. paddles on my RS. I only use paddles on the track and prefer shifting "manually" with the lever. I'm really hoping this option becomes available on a non GT PDK car.
My Dakar was pretty boring with the little subbie thing in place of the GT shifter

 

Any word on a Dakar like package being offered on 4S or GTS 4?

 

This appears to be the consensus. It’s one of the things I liked the most on my M3. I only used the paddles sporadically.