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Old 01-06-2024, 02:11 PM
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I'm dizzy from this thread going in circles.
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Old 01-06-2024, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by poutine
Guys you've got any idea when 992.2 can be ordered ?
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some dealers might take your name for the order. It will be q4 this year to get a build slot. DM me if you want me to connect you to my dealer.
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Originally Posted by poutine
Guys you've got any idea when 992.2 can be ordered ?
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Most rumors suggest production will start Q4 of this year, if that is accurate dealers should get allocations in April or May.
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Old 01-06-2024, 05:43 PM
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And what about those rumors that they will make more 911s, since the 718 is an EV now and has moved to a different assembly line?
Old 01-07-2024, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 3uros
Continuing to play the guessing game we can surmise that at least some version of the 992.2 Carrera will not be hybrid as there are some test cars with and without that yellow EV sticker.
Fair assumption re non-hybrid cars. But not certain the hybrid test mules photographed will actually be put in production. Just because Porsche tests it does not mean it will produce it. I think a hybrid is coming but would not be surprised to see Porsche push it back to the 994 in 2026. Surprised to hear that Porsche would produce two different hybrid systems for the 911 as speculated/reported in the C & D article. Assume Porsche would concentrate on one hybrid system for the 911 for engineering, cost and production efficiency. I could be wrong.

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Old 01-07-2024, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
Fair assumption re non-hybrid cars. But not certain the hybrid test mules photographed will actually be put in production. Just because Porsche tests it does not mean it will produce it. I think a hybrid is coming but would not be surprised to see Porsche push it back to the 994 in 2026. Surprised to hear that Porsche would produce two different hybrid systems for the 911 as speculated/reported in the C & D article. Assume Porsche would concentrate on one hybrid system for the 911 for engineering, cost and production efficiency. I could be wrong.
Very logical and it is rather difficult to disagree with as there is some truth to it.
Old 01-07-2024, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 22992
I mean an M4 is 100k these days. Mustangs are too, Not sure what people would substitute in the 150k range. But I do see some people questioning the value when there are some pretty good cars up there in the 200’s. I know I wouldn’t be a GTS buyer at 200. For a bit more you can get into something truly special.
what is "truly special" for a bit mote then $200K? i suppose a GT3 touring ...

just curious.
Old 01-07-2024, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
Fair assumption re non-hybrid cars. But not certain the hybrid test mules photographed will actually be put in production. Just because Porsche tests it does not mean it will produce it. I think a hybrid is coming but would not be surprised to see Porsche push it back to the 994 in 2026. Surprised to hear that Porsche would produce two different hybrid systems for the 911 as speculated/reported in the C & D article. Assume Porsche would concentrate on one hybrid system for the 911 for engineering, cost and production efficiency. I could be wrong.
I'm guessing they would come out years apart. Just like the models of each iteration of the 911 do.
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Originally Posted by Jasonamayes
So far we've been told that the base Carrera will NOT be the t-hybrid in the 992.2.

First to be "announced" will be the Carrera and the GTS.
If you are able say, does what you have been told match up with the car and driver article?
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Old 01-07-2024, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by flsupraguy
Guy got some free reviews without any extra or new information. Good for him.
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Originally Posted by Drew46
There is no money injection with improved numbers unless they are doing a capital raise - which they haven't. Improved stock price does not create money for the issuer - only the shareholders.

I have spent the better part of my career working with PE funds, VCs and other private investors and they are as concerned - or more - with performance than the "market". While you may have fewer voices in a private company, they tend to be much, much louder and more demanding. I am not saying that public companies are not under pressure to post good numbers (they certainly are), but that pressure isn't more than with privates. You only need to sit through one board meeting with PE firm appointed directors to understand.

So, while I agree that Porsche makes decisions to make its shareholders happy - after all, that is the purpose of a corporation in capitalism - I don't think those decisions are different or worse just because they went public.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that corporate leadership is incentivized to goose the stock price as much as possible and that there is a stark contrast between privately held companies that have not taken PE investments and those that have.
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Originally Posted by flsupraguy
I saw it earlier today and thought, okay, this video just regurgitates everything C&D said.

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Originally Posted by Fullyield
What you have read is nothing but speculation and guesswork. The only true fact of which I am aware is that Porsche has stated that it redesigned the PDK for the 992.1 so it could accept a hybrid motor in future models.
This was already done on the 991.
Old 01-07-2024, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 3uros
Well, we know for a fact that the S and GTS will indeed have some sort of hybrid set-up (Green EV stickers on test vehicles) and Frank Walliser has stated in several interviews that their goal to meet EU 7 standards is to increase displacement since there will be a cap on power per liter of displacement once EU 7 standards take effect.

Several folks here want to believe that Porsche will engineer a manual mild hybrid but I don't believe it. I'll believe it when I see it....I've never read anything about the manual transmissions engineered to accommodate a hybrid set up such as the 8 speed PDK. And that goes back years since 2018... I am willing to bet the Base Carrera and T if there is another T will be the sole manual Carreras (I doubt if Porsche will remove manuals all together especially for the important US market). The GT cars are a different story all together because they still use the old 7 speed PDK from the 991.
base carrera having manual is consistent with wht I heard.


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