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#196
Three Wheelin'
I'm dizzy from this thread going in circles.
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Fullyield (01-07-2024)
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#199
Drifting
And what about those rumors that they will make more 911s, since the 718 is an EV now and has moved to a different assembly line?
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Fair assumption re non-hybrid cars. But not certain the hybrid test mules photographed will actually be put in production. Just because Porsche tests it does not mean it will produce it. I think a hybrid is coming but would not be surprised to see Porsche push it back to the 994 in 2026. Surprised to hear that Porsche would produce two different hybrid systems for the 911 as speculated/reported in the C & D article. Assume Porsche would concentrate on one hybrid system for the 911 for engineering, cost and production efficiency. I could be wrong.
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Fair assumption re non-hybrid cars. But not certain the hybrid test mules photographed will actually be put in production. Just because Porsche tests it does not mean it will produce it. I think a hybrid is coming but would not be surprised to see Porsche push it back to the 994 in 2026. Surprised to hear that Porsche would produce two different hybrid systems for the 911 as speculated/reported in the C & D article. Assume Porsche would concentrate on one hybrid system for the 911 for engineering, cost and production efficiency. I could be wrong.
#202
I mean an M4 is 100k these days. Mustangs are too, Not sure what people would substitute in the 150k range. But I do see some people questioning the value when there are some pretty good cars up there in the 200’s. I know I wouldn’t be a GTS buyer at 200. For a bit more you can get into something truly special.
just curious.
#203
Three Wheelin'
Fair assumption re non-hybrid cars. But not certain the hybrid test mules photographed will actually be put in production. Just because Porsche tests it does not mean it will produce it. I think a hybrid is coming but would not be surprised to see Porsche push it back to the 994 in 2026. Surprised to hear that Porsche would produce two different hybrid systems for the 911 as speculated/reported in the C & D article. Assume Porsche would concentrate on one hybrid system for the 911 for engineering, cost and production efficiency. I could be wrong.
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There is no money injection with improved numbers unless they are doing a capital raise - which they haven't. Improved stock price does not create money for the issuer - only the shareholders.
I have spent the better part of my career working with PE funds, VCs and other private investors and they are as concerned - or more - with performance than the "market". While you may have fewer voices in a private company, they tend to be much, much louder and more demanding. I am not saying that public companies are not under pressure to post good numbers (they certainly are), but that pressure isn't more than with privates. You only need to sit through one board meeting with PE firm appointed directors to understand.
So, while I agree that Porsche makes decisions to make its shareholders happy - after all, that is the purpose of a corporation in capitalism - I don't think those decisions are different or worse just because they went public.
I have spent the better part of my career working with PE funds, VCs and other private investors and they are as concerned - or more - with performance than the "market". While you may have fewer voices in a private company, they tend to be much, much louder and more demanding. I am not saying that public companies are not under pressure to post good numbers (they certainly are), but that pressure isn't more than with privates. You only need to sit through one board meeting with PE firm appointed directors to understand.
So, while I agree that Porsche makes decisions to make its shareholders happy - after all, that is the purpose of a corporation in capitalism - I don't think those decisions are different or worse just because they went public.
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Well, we know for a fact that the S and GTS will indeed have some sort of hybrid set-up (Green EV stickers on test vehicles) and Frank Walliser has stated in several interviews that their goal to meet EU 7 standards is to increase displacement since there will be a cap on power per liter of displacement once EU 7 standards take effect.
Several folks here want to believe that Porsche will engineer a manual mild hybrid but I don't believe it. I'll believe it when I see it....I've never read anything about the manual transmissions engineered to accommodate a hybrid set up such as the 8 speed PDK. And that goes back years since 2018... I am willing to bet the Base Carrera and T if there is another T will be the sole manual Carreras (I doubt if Porsche will remove manuals all together especially for the important US market). The GT cars are a different story all together because they still use the old 7 speed PDK from the 991.
Several folks here want to believe that Porsche will engineer a manual mild hybrid but I don't believe it. I'll believe it when I see it....I've never read anything about the manual transmissions engineered to accommodate a hybrid set up such as the 8 speed PDK. And that goes back years since 2018... I am willing to bet the Base Carrera and T if there is another T will be the sole manual Carreras (I doubt if Porsche will remove manuals all together especially for the important US market). The GT cars are a different story all together because they still use the old 7 speed PDK from the 991.