Smirnoff67

​​​​​​​They have to make an end-point somewhere. Believe me, I'm not a fan of doing the break-in, but I'm too paranoid about it to not do it. And like I said I keep my cars forever because sooner or later they'll end up going to my kids. Hopefully later...lol

jhenson29

Maybe all of the people complaining about how long 1800 miles is don’t drive their cars enough.

jtsrenn

Good luck with that. I said the same with my 2006 981 S, 2015 981 GTS, 2018 991 GTS and my current 992 GTS. But this time, I really, really mean it.

ron4sc

OK sorry for the poor word choice.

What i meant by "pampering" is that I intend to wash, clean it, and keep it looking brand new as long as humanly and technologically possible. I bought the car to drive the hell out of while cherishing that agreeable engine growl coming from behind my ear. That's why I opted for the 7MT.

pkalhan

"I drive my cars hard...the way they were meant to be driven!"

Oh yeah? How many miles do you drive a year?

"3,000"

<speechless>

johny221

comparing an engine break in period you don’t like to the R word is something…..

doug_999

Believe it or not, there is lots of evidence that a car babied in the first few hundred miles makes less power and often uses more oil.

and back to my point, the lawyers have a lot to say about that break-in period. Maybe more so than the engineers. Break the car in however you like, not here to start that argument, just pointing out that it is not Hans and friends that write that stuff

and how come Porsche has no early oil change or diff change? now that’s a fun argument …

Smirnoff67

It's not about babying the car for the first few hundred miles. I just don't go over 4,000 rpms is all. Yesterday on the freeway i was doing 115-120mph when all alone, and when passing someone at a slower speed and gave it some gas, I was just careful not to exceed the limit. Heck, even cruising at 80mph the Tach was a tad below 2,000rpms. As far as the first oil change goes I agree with you. Last Spring after breaking-in my Panamera and I hit 3,000 miles I went by the Dealership to schedule an oil change and they insisted I wait until the year-mark in November. They said to do it months early was a total waste of money even if it was the first one. I didn't know what to think about that, and still don't, but I went along with it and did the 1st service at the year-mark. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️. When I hit 3,000 miles in my C4 GTS I'll revisit the issue, plus I'm still making my way through the Owners Manual.

doug_999

That's not how you set the rings Like I said, not trying to get into the whole debate here about break-in procedures (you can stay up late reading each side - my favorite one is when someone who knew someone was at the factory and got a lesson from Hans (I'm making up the names). ) - my point was and still is... when someone says "I trust the engineers at Porsche who wrote that" - it probably is not them who wrote that.....

Smirnoff67

​​​​​​​I get it now. Thank you for straightening me out. The bad part is if we lined up 10 people from Porsche engineering, 10 people from the Factory who actually build the cars, and 10 Porsche lawyers and asked all 30 what the proper break-in procedure is, we'd probably get 30 different answers....who knows...

doug_999

You forgot to add in 1,000 know it all rennlisters
(myself included )

Pivot

Here is an old classic on the running-in:
https://yel.pca.org/porsche-engine-break-in/

it is 10-y old article, motors are build by robots now, for greater consistency, but principles still apply, unless you don’t care and will flip it anyway.

rk-d

That's an old chestnut. The other is Preuninger's recommendation quoted on RL from a video. I normally try to avoid these break in discussions, but this thread is so off the rails, what the hell....

I videoed AP's presentation, and here is what he said:
"I can only tell you how I personally do it, or how we do it at Weissach – for the first 500 kilometres or 300 miles, we don’t drive that car car ever over 5000 rpm, never. From then on, every 200 kilometres, we up the rpms by 500, so we end up at 1300, 1400 kilometres at the threshold before we can really go full throttle, at 800 or 900 miles."
He then went on that this procedure was really important for the GT3 RS engines given their more «delicate» rings - and how important this break in really is for any of their engines.

I'm not sure who originally transcribed this. It may be fake news for all I know, but it's been passed around RL for years.

I don't personally believe in these super long break ins - what I've always done just happens to align closest with what AP does. Keep it light for a couple tanks then start to open It up over a couple more. Done by about 800 miles.

Staffie Guy

Best advice!!!

That is exactly what I have always done and will do when I get my new 911 hopefully this week.

APEX GT3

Just at a Porsche experience driving event. They had 992’s with under 500 miles and we beat the hell out of them, red line all day on the track.
I think the break in 2k miles was relevant 10 years ago but with the level of machine automation and the quality of the parts in these cars now, I think 3-4 full tanks of gas and you’re fine.
I know a guy who was so nervous about the break in period that he would not ever come close to getting over 4K rpms until he hit 2k miles - then he traded in the car in about 500 miles afterwards. When you buy secondhand you have no idea but the original owner did during the first couple thousand miles. All I could say is on my previous Porsche purchases the dealer didn’t say anything about breaking the car in whatsoever.