New Nick Murray Video - S vs GTS
#406
The primary thing for me are the options.
The options I want are available with an S derivative, e.g. manual transmission, and with GTS I get other options baked-in that I don’t want, like lowered suspension, etc.
However, if I was in the market for GTS-level specs I would pref to take GTS, as trade-in/resale value is calculated on a base price of the derivative, before the options, so on the GTS one would lose less value.
The options I want are available with an S derivative, e.g. manual transmission, and with GTS I get other options baked-in that I don’t want, like lowered suspension, etc.
However, if I was in the market for GTS-level specs I would pref to take GTS, as trade-in/resale value is calculated on a base price of the derivative, before the options, so on the GTS one would lose less value.
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#407
Depreciation has to be pretty low on the list of reasons you buy a luxury sports car, imo. I just can’t imagine spending this kind of money on a car with a bunch of options I don’t want just because the residual value might be fractionally higher than the car I *actually* want. Talk about buyers remorse.
Buy the one you want!
Buy the one you want!
Last edited by papa-p; 01-18-2023 at 03:15 PM.
#408
Depreciation has to be pretty low on the list of reasons you buy a luxury sports car, imo. I just can’t imagine spending this kind of money on a car with a bunch of options I don’t want just because the residual value might be fractionally higher than the car I ACTUALLY want. Talk about buyers remorse.
Buy the one you want!
Buy the one you want!
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jlegelis (01-18-2023)
#409
Depreciation has to be pretty low on the list of reasons you buy a luxury sports car, imo. I just can’t imagine spending this kind of money on a car with a bunch of options I don’t want just because the residual value might be fractionally higher than the car I *actually* want. Talk about buyers remorse.
Buy the one you want!
Buy the one you want!
Meaning I wouldn't get the GTS solely because of better depreciation, but I could justify the added expense of the GTS based on the favorable depreciation (if the cost of the GTS was a sticking point).
I think it probably speaks more to the fact that the cost argument against the GTS is a little specious since things like depreciation can be factored into the equation.
#410
Depreciation has to be pretty low on the list of reasons you buy a luxury sports car, imo. I just can’t imagine spending this kind of money on a car with a bunch of options I don’t want just because the residual value might be fractionally higher than the car I *actually* want. Talk about buyers remorse.
Buy the one you want!
Buy the one you want!
#411
The other issue with Nick Murray’s review was the acceleration test. He didn’t show any Dragy or verifiable times from the S and GTS. All he did was do a 2nd gear pull in sport mode (not sport plus) where the GTS lost traction at the beginning and then proceeded to say “there’s no noticeable difference between the two”. Even if you don’t notice a difference, if you run both in the 1/4 mile the GTS will be faster 100%.
this video was a hit piece against the GTS. When my GTS arrives I will race it against my friends S and show Nick he is full of it.
this video was a hit piece against the GTS. When my GTS arrives I will race it against my friends S and show Nick he is full of it.
Last edited by porsche1234; 01-21-2023 at 06:45 PM.
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#412
In the meantime, might read this study. Just sayin’
https://www.insidehook.com/daily_bri...ars-*****-size
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doug_999 (02-04-2023)
#413
The other issue with Nick Murray’s review was the acceleration test. He didn’t show any Dragy or verifiable times from the S and GTS. All he did was do a 2nd gear pull in sport mode (not sport plus) where the GTS lost traction at the beginning and then proceeded to say “there’s no noticeable difference between the two”. Even if you don’t notice a difference, if you run both in the 1/4 mile the GTS will be faster 100%.
this video was a hit piece against the GTS. When my GTS arrives I will race it against my friends S and show Nick he is full of it.
this video was a hit piece against the GTS. When my GTS arrives I will race it against my friends S and show Nick he is full of it.
#414
I suppose that there is not enough hype for the Carrera S and GTS online for the influencers to get enough views. People would rather see a GT3 vs gt3rs or a m4csl vs m5cs etc.
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rk-d (01-21-2023)
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#416
I just recently watched a video comparing a 996 turbo to a base 992, another with a base 992 vs 992gt3 and there are countless other unsolicited comparisons out there. I would think a comparison among the Carrera models would do just as good or better than some of the “content fillers” swirling around out there.
#417
Burning Brakes
#418
As stated before on this Forum, and from Porsche’s own data:
”Buyers of the fan-favorite Porsche 911 model are. often between 46 and 65 years old, with the average age being 52”
Point being….I would care to venture that the VAST number of 911 owners are more interested in the image that Porsche exudes to their neighbors, than its ability to beat someone off the line? All they know is it’s fast. really fast. A tenth of a second is noise to most people. Who cares? Most older men care about their health, remaining attractive, and in some cases, being able to get it up, and hoping their 401K and other investments keep doing well.
”Buyers of the fan-favorite Porsche 911 model are. often between 46 and 65 years old, with the average age being 52”
Point being….I would care to venture that the VAST number of 911 owners are more interested in the image that Porsche exudes to their neighbors, than its ability to beat someone off the line? All they know is it’s fast. really fast. A tenth of a second is noise to most people. Who cares? Most older men care about their health, remaining attractive, and in some cases, being able to get it up, and hoping their 401K and other investments keep doing well.
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#419
Burning Brakes
As stated before on this Forum, and from Porsche’s own data:
”Buyers of the fan-favorite Porsche 911 model are. often between 46 and 65 years old, with the average age being 52”
Point being….I would care to venture that the VAST number of 911 owners are more interested in the image that Porsche exudes to their neighbors, than its ability to beat someone off the line? All they know is it’s fast. really fast. A tenth of a second is noise to most people. Who cares? Most older men care about their health, remaining attractive, and in some cases, being able to get it up, and hoping their 401K and other investments keep doing well.
”Buyers of the fan-favorite Porsche 911 model are. often between 46 and 65 years old, with the average age being 52”
Point being….I would care to venture that the VAST number of 911 owners are more interested in the image that Porsche exudes to their neighbors, than its ability to beat someone off the line? All they know is it’s fast. really fast. A tenth of a second is noise to most people. Who cares? Most older men care about their health, remaining attractive, and in some cases, being able to get it up, and hoping their 401K and other investments keep doing well.
Guess I'm an anomaly. I own and drive mine solely for me; I don't care at all about who thinks the GTS is superior or inferior to the S. In fact, I don't like to advertise I have a Porsche to others. I also have big hands and feet.
edit: I DO, however, get some enjoyment out of discussing things in ridiculous detail here as a distraction from other things I'd rather not be doing or thinking.
Last edited by Vicbastige; 01-22-2023 at 11:31 AM.
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#420
As stated before on this Forum, and from Porsche’s own data:
”Buyers of the fan-favorite Porsche 911 model are. often between 46 and 65 years old, with the average age being 52”
Point being….I would care to venture that the VAST number of 911 owners are more interested in the image that Porsche exudes to their neighbors, than its ability to beat someone off the line? All they know is it’s fast. really fast. A tenth of a second is noise to most people. Who cares? Most older men care about their health, remaining attractive, and in some cases, being able to get it up, and hoping their 401K and other investments keep doing well.
”Buyers of the fan-favorite Porsche 911 model are. often between 46 and 65 years old, with the average age being 52”
Point being….I would care to venture that the VAST number of 911 owners are more interested in the image that Porsche exudes to their neighbors, than its ability to beat someone off the line? All they know is it’s fast. really fast. A tenth of a second is noise to most people. Who cares? Most older men care about their health, remaining attractive, and in some cases, being able to get it up, and hoping their 401K and other investments keep doing well.
It’s kinda like not caring if someone put cloth seats in your Bentley and focusing on it’s 0-60 while complaining the ride is too soft.
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