minn19

K, how are us 992 S owners getting “shafted” according to your other post?

Pivot

I am tempted to copy some of this discussion into chatGPT AI and make a youTube of it:

CodyBigdog

More Nick Murray videos, please! 😳

The additional $$ paid for the GT3 or Turbo, is easily quantified with superior performance in a number of attributes. While other models are a bit harder to differentiate from it’s nearest sibling…..and often, the added options (where much of the added cost is) are things people don’t want in the first place…so why pay for them?

But buying a Porsche is a bit like getting dinner at buffet….pick out what you want, and leave the rest. Excepts with the buffet, it’s one price, whether you sample all the food, or only have one item.

All versions of the 911 are fantastic cars…no matter what you get, I don’t think you can go wrong. It’s the arrogance, or the badge snobbery that is misplaced.

minn19

I don’t think anyone is misunderstanding this. Some don’t think you get much more (or want more) for the up charge so why pay more? Also not a deep concept.

I’ll go through this decision next year when my GTS 4 allocation finally comes up. It’ll be interesting to see what my 21 C4S is worth trade in wise and what my dealer wants for the GTS etc. Right now they are at MSRP plus the worthless watch and PPF.

Also personal taste with looks comes into play. I don’t like CL wheels and would like more non CL wheel choices for the GTS. I also don’t like how the Turbo models look with the rear fender intakes, I prefer the cleaner lines of the Carreras. Some obviously like the opposite of what I do.

Hence the endless choices Porsche gives us to get every customer they can. None of this is rocket science.

I like how Nick shows in this video from a real world day to day perspective of what you can expect between the two.

aggie57

Not sure anyone has ever said that, in fact now with the T released the question is probably more why an S when you could get a T with MT and an LSD? The money saved over an S and especially a GTS should easily cover bigger brakes and some suspension upgrades.

minn19

Everyone has their pain point or what they don’t think is “worth it” and yah some are stretching to just get in a base so it is all about $$$.

Add in the demand exceeding supply and that is why I’m in a CPO 21 C4S rather than a new custom ordered GTS 4. I got tired of waiting with no concrete info on when the wait might end and yes at what cost, ADM etc.

I guess I’m a badge snob too as I wanted at least an S for the PTV, more power etc etc. Plus most of us whether we mean to or not justifies what we bought, just human nature.

remington

I'm going to guess that the median income of buyers for the Base, S, and GTS are probably statistically identical. People buy what they want (or lately what's available) at this price point.

remington

Because it's not accurate. You can quite easily spec a Base more than an S. I spec'd my Base to $139k. I have other cars including Porsche GT cars that meet my track needs. What you do get more in an S and GTS is included options and some go-fast bits (debatable for the GTS as the video shows) that may or may not suit the buyer.

Nibiru12

Is her name Alexa by any chance?
Or Siri?

ipse dixit

I bet you they are most definitely not.

ron4sc

This!

At these price points, we probably could all buy a Turbo S if we wanted. For me, I drew the line at a $150k C2S. I didn't want to spend an extra $12k for a PTS color so I'm excited to receive my GB 911S. Would $12k have made the slightest difference in our net worth? Of course not. I drew a line where I felt comfortable spending money. Others draw the line higher or lower. Some view these cars as investments while others view them as depreciating assets outside of our asset mix. To each his own.

We should stop judging other people's motives and be thankful we can debate the nuances of six-figure german sports cars.

pkalhan

Agreed...poor guy here. I can not get much more than an S...as a CPO. Base is most prob in my future and am perfectly fine with that.

911dude41

At this point this thread is a parody, please turn on your sarcasm detector.

However, you 992 S snobs think you've got it all right. The truth is you're too snooty for a base model but the GTS is out of your comfortable budget range. So you settled for an S and defend it like a knight in shining armour. Not only that, you go on the offensive towards the GTS and other models to prove that you in fact are winning and made the correct choice.

So how are you 992 S owners getting shafted? Your car is to a base right now as the GTS is to yours. So your arguments towards the GTS bashing can be directed right back at you but in comparison of S vs Base.

Go buy a real 911. While you're at it, buy a real truck and an SUV too. Tacoma? Euughh. Pathfinder? WTF?

minn19

Hey hey hey! Pick on the C4S/Pathfinder all you want, but leave the Taco out of this!

Tupper

Well, the difference in hp between a base and an S is about double the difference in hp between the S and GTS. Plus, the S and GTS have the exact same engine and turbo sizes, but just tuned differently. I can tune a base and my power is limited by turbo size.

However, I can tune an S to almost 600 hp because of its larger turbos. A GTS can similarly be tuned, but you can’t get it higher because, again, same engine as an S.

I agree somewhat with the argument that the GTS is a “parts bin special”. The S actually gives you a different engine—I’m talking hardware—than a base. That is substantial