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Old 02-02-2024, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Aperture776
Will they be replacing these electronic components at the port? Not feeling good about the time frame either.
I suspect they replace at the port, just based on comments on other threads here on RL regarding cars needing “fixes” after shipment.

Forget the time frame, I’m not feeling good about possibly unqualified people messing around with the car outside of the factory.

This message raises more questions than it answers:
  1. Which electronic component?
  2. Why does it need to be replaced?
  3. Where is the component located?
  4. How will the capabilities of the car be affected?

Now for the speculation:
  1. It seems only US bound cars are impacted.
  2. Is this an emissions issue?
  3. Is this a cybersecurity related issue?
  4. Is this a political issue (e.g. “we won’t allow your product into our country if it contains chips manufactured in X country”)?
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Old 02-02-2024, 03:10 PM
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Why can't the cars be released and held at the dealership?
Old 02-02-2024, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Biohazard
Why can't the cars be released and held at the dealership?
It could be that it is logistically easier and cheaper to send technicians to a few ports, than to send them to multiple dealers, or alternatively train and pay the dealers to make the fix.

Other reasons could be because of 2, 3, or 4 in my “speculation” list. Of these three options, #4 probably explains best why the cars must remain at customs.
Old 02-02-2024, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Biohazard
Why can't the cars be released and held at the dealership?
Im thinking whatever it is, it must violate some sort of law on imported cars thus customs won't let the vehicles enter the country until they comply with US law. Emissions, safety, who knows. It's disconcerting that Porsche is not being transparent about exactly what this is.
Old 02-02-2024, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrustNormal
Im thinking whatever it is, it must violate some sort of law on imported cars thus customs won't let the vehicles enter the country until they comply with US law. Emissions, safety, who knows. It's disconcerting that Porsche is not being transparent about exactly what this is.
It can’t be new emissions or safety regulations, because Porsche would have built the car according to current standards. If the standards change, manufacturers are given enough notice to meet the standards.

The only thing that changes overnight is political policy.

That said, it is possible that installed chips have been found to be defective, so they do not meet current requirements. This could happen due to a supplier change or due to quality control issues with the supplier. (However, wouldn’t cars being shipped to other regions also have the defective chips? Why are only US bound cars affected?)
Old 02-02-2024, 05:48 PM
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My SA just called me. He was just in a meeting and they were told that there is a chip they need to change on the ECU. He wasn't given exact details on why but all new Porsches thats not a 4cyl world wide needs to be updated. ETA for my car to reach the dealer is now mid-April.
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Old 02-02-2024, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Aperture776
My SA just called me. He was just in a meeting and they were told that there is a chip they need to change on the ECU. He wasn't given exact details on why but all new Porsches thats not a 4cyl world wide needs to be updated. ETA for my car to reach the dealer is now mid-April.
what a **** show and would epxlain the strange gap I am seeing here for mine:

Old 02-02-2024, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Aperture776
My SA just called me. He was just in a meeting and they were told that there is a chip they need to change on the ECU. He wasn't given exact details on why but all new Porsches thats not a 4cyl world wide needs to be updated. ETA for my car to reach the dealer is now mid-April.
I wonder if this will affect my CGTS 4.0 that finished production in late November but sat in what I believe is a warehouse and not at Emden until it got there a few days ago.
Old 02-02-2024, 05:59 PM
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Mine is on it's way to Benicia. I hope it's not affected!

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Old 02-02-2024, 06:07 PM
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This sucks. Turning off rennlist and instagram until my car is released 😂. And I just rushed to renovate the garage lol.
Old 02-02-2024, 06:16 PM
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I happened to speak to my sales rep this morning to get updates about my C4S sitting in Emden and while talking, he referred to the broader hold up affecting 911s. He said it was due to an emissions issue - TIFWIW.

( Not to muddy up the water: while I'm sure the above port-of-entry hold up can be attributed to some of my delay, I think the main culprit why my car has been held up in Emden is lack of ships scheduled to drop off cars on the west coast during March timeframe. Double whammy. )


Originally Posted by PSPorsche
It can’t be new emissions or safety regulations, because Porsche would have built the car according to current standards. If the standards change, manufacturers are given enough notice to meet the standards.

The only thing that changes overnight is political policy.

That said, it is possible that installed chips have been found to be defective, so they do not meet current requirements. This could happen due to a supplier change or due to quality control issues with the supplier. (However, wouldn’t cars being shipped to other regions also have the defective chips? Why are only US bound cars affected?)
Originally Posted by ThrustNormal
Im thinking whatever it is, it must violate some sort of law on imported cars thus customs won't let the vehicles enter the country until they comply with US law. Emissions, safety, who knows. It's disconcerting that Porsche is not being transparent about exactly what this is.

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Old 02-02-2024, 06:19 PM
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My MY24 Taycan GTS has also been waiting in port since Jan 10th and received the same message as above this morning from the SA. Unfortunately, he also relayed the delivery ETA has been pushed to mid April. As non-ICE cars, cannot imagine the ECU issue is solely impacting emissions.
Old 02-02-2024, 08:19 PM
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Nah this doesn't affect 718s or Macans as stated in the bulletin.

Originally Posted by pgap718
I wonder if this will affect my CGTS 4.0 that finished production in late November but sat in what I believe is a warehouse and not at Emden until it got there a few days ago.
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Old 02-02-2024, 08:47 PM
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Interesting sounds expensive lol.
Old 02-02-2024, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pgap718
I wonder if this will affect my CGTS 4.0 that finished production in late November but sat in what I believe is a warehouse and not at Emden until it got there a few days ago.
Wondering the same question. My T finished production on Nov 8 and currently on its way to Benicia. I guess we can only find out when car arrives at port.
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