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Old 12-26-2022, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Freddie Two Bs
Black Targa4 GTS at $15k over after fees. So much for getting hammered.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...911-targa-gts/
Its usually low end luxury cars that gets hammered first. Ex amg gt 911 base bmw m8 and etc.
Old 12-26-2022, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ascend
Unrelated but pista just sold for 430k which is 60k lower than lowest price in AT
Wow. That number is back to where I sold my Pista for. Can you send me a link? Thanks
Old 12-26-2022, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Freddie Two Bs
Black Targa4 GTS at $15k over after fees. So much for getting hammered.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...911-targa-gts/
That is actually a pretty good deal. $10K over to the seller, that sounds like a lot less than what I was being asked to pay this summer. I see far less Targa4 GTS listed than GT3s, so was expecting $25K+ for this.
Old 12-26-2022, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rusmani
rough life as a "responsible dad". Young and single in LA must be going well! I look forward to texting my mom fake texts and having her say "992 GT3 at 30k under" and blanking out the name like a real troll. Amazing!!!

troll harder and get plowed harder. You've owned two Porsches and paid ADM for both. FAX.


I’m the guy in blue jack@ss

How am I going to screenshot someone else’s phone? Lol

I was offering that to my good friend from high school.

nice attempt at playing police officer tho, eat crow bud
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Old 12-26-2022, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
I’m the guy in blue jack@ss

How am I going to screenshot someone else’s phone? Lol

I was offering that to my good friend from high school.

nice attempt at playing police officer tho, eat crow bud
aaaaand you still paid ADM for your GT4 HAHAHAHAH. Although I've never seen you post a pic of any car you own, so you're probably just trolling and don't even have a Porsche

buzz off champ
Old 12-26-2022, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe mac
Wow. That number is back to where I sold my Pista for. Can you send me a link? Thanks
When did you sell it? Its at Bat
Old 12-26-2022, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ascend
When did you sell it? Its at Bat
Sold it when my MC20 came in so that was April 2021?
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Originally Posted by Joe mac
Sold it when my MC20 came in so that was April 2021?

No, sold it in April 2021 when Targa came in.
Old 12-26-2022, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rusmani
aaaaand you still paid ADM for your GT4 HAHAHAHAH. Although I've never seen you post a pic of any car you own, so you're probably just trolling and don't even have a Porsche

buzz off champ
7500 to custom order my gt4 in the middle of the craziest car market of my life seemed very reasonable to me and relatively pocket change and I couldn’t wait as my track car had to be retired as it was 8 years old and out of warranty. Paying 7500 is a little different than paying 75-100k lol the gt4 is a smoking value already imo

go to some track days in LA and you’ll see my car.

you sound like one of those greasy independent dealers trying to flip brand new but used Porsches for a profit and need the market to stay propped. If u were a Porsche dealer u would know it ebs and flows and u wouldn’t sound so desperate

Be a little more cheerful bud
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I'm glad to see the Christmas cheer spreading. Just want to point out that we labored under 2.5% inflation for most of 2008-2019 and that still didn't stop cars from depreciating. Lower inflation due to a collapse in demand isn't exactly a reason for car prices to start firming up again. That said, I don't think we're going to see MSRP on these cars in 2023 unless it's a 20k+ mile example with basic spec or something
Old 12-26-2022, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
7500 to custom order my gt4 in the middle of the craziest car market of my life seemed very reasonable to me and relatively pocket change and I couldn’t wait as my track car had to be retired as it was 8 years old and out of warranty. Paying 7500 is a little different than paying 75-100k lol the gt4 is a smoking value already imo

go to some track days in LA and you’ll see my car.

you sound like one of those greasy independent dealers trying to flip brand new but used Porsches for a profit and need the market to stay propped. If u were a Porsche dealer u would know it ebs and flows and u wouldn’t sound so desperate

Be a little more cheerful bud
I have no dog in this fight - I just love the free market so perhaps you can say I don’t give a s about ADMs just like I don’t give a s when cars sell for 10% under sticker. That being said - you admit you paid 7500 which seemed reasonable and was pocket change to you. To others that is 30% or more of their annual income and to some others that is 0.3% or less of their income. So 75000 (in the good old free market) is pocket change to some and just like you wanted that GT4 immediately, if they want that GT3 now - by all means - I couldn’t care less (as long as that is roughly where the fair market is at the time and that person isn’t getting screwed by some shady dealer).
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Old 12-26-2022, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe mac
No, sold it in April 2021 when Targa came in.
Its actually lower than what you sold it for as trade in value is always lower than actual sales price. I wonder what dealer margin is on cars in 400k zone like pista. 40k?
Old 12-26-2022, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by av12345
I have no dog in this fight - I just love the free market so perhaps you can say I don’t give a s about ADMs just like I don’t give a s when cars sell for 10% under sticker. That being said - you admit you paid 7500 which seemed reasonable and was pocket change to you. To others that is 30% or more of their annual income and to some others that is 0.3% or less of their income. So 75000 (in the good old free market) is pocket change to some and just like you wanted that GT4 immediately, if they want that GT3 now - by all means - I couldn’t care less (as long as that is roughly where the fair market is at the time and that person isn’t getting screwed by some shady dealer).
Free market allows dealers to take advantage of suckers. If you regulate to prevent that, it’s not free.
Old 12-26-2022, 08:51 PM
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For the record I have no issue with anyone paying an ADM, never have. It’s their money not mine. I have only tried to help people in here by showing them places they can go for better prices than the pumpers (mainly Rusman and Diablo) claim

I have said prices are dropping (they are) and I can get ADM’s at half what some of these people claim is market right now and they throw a fit.

then I provide examples of offers I’ve gotten in the past and they get very very angry.

The guy trying to help people with ADM’s and telling some emotional buyers in here their Gt3 they think is going to stay at 50-100k over, will be sticker quicker than they know it (depreciation is normal) is called responsible and rational, not the delusional enemy these losers want to portray. If you got money you need to blow by all means go blow 75k over on a Gt3 they have 188 for sale on autotrader to choose from…but if money means something to you maybe listen to my 2 cents and take a second look at your decision and have a little patience and you’ll be rewarded

Merry Christmas and happy new year

Old 12-26-2022, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
7500 to custom order my gt4 in the middle of the craziest car market of my life seemed very reasonable to me and relatively pocket change and I couldn’t wait as my track car had to be retired as it was 8 years old and out of warranty. Paying 7500 is a little different than paying 75-100k lol the gt4 is a smoking value already imo

go to some track days in LA and you’ll see my car.

you sound like one of those greasy independent dealers trying to flip brand new but used Porsches for a profit and need the market to stay propped. If u were a Porsche dealer u would know it ebs and flows and u wouldn’t sound so desperate

Be a little more cheerful bud
Good for you man. Enjoy the car. Just remember your hypocrisy ****ting on any and all forms of ADM when the two Porsche GT cars you have/currently own were obtained by paying ADM.

As it's been said by others, the ADM you pay is just a function of how much disposable income you have and what you're comfortable paying.

And just to keep things on topic, ADMs for 992 GT3s aren't going away. Your incessant screaming that they'll be MSRP or 30k under ASAP isn't going to change that.

Hope the GT4 is serving you well. I have one also and love it. I'd love to add a 992 GT3 to the fleet, but that'll likely have to wait given the market.


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