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Old 12-09-2022 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
this is the dumbest thing I’ve read on RL today and damn that’s a hurdle. 72 month 5% loan in CA with 10% tax is $4k per month. $500k is after tax, $25,000 per month in income. If you can’t make 25 > 4, sorry, but that’s a You problem, not a universal truth. Cut back on the hookers and blow and maybe you can afford a nice car

‘’Now that was funny as hell almost spit my coffee 😎
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Old 12-09-2022 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ascend
Didnt they also say that this gen will be the last NA gt3? Lolololol

Dude dont fall for the oldest trick in the book.
You dont sound very informed here.
Your earlier (erroneous) remark that bonds have been going down is quite telling.
Here, let me help you improve your knowledge base again:

Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
I just got back from Stuttgart, one of our clients took Euro Delivery of his Dolomite GT3 and while we where doing the factory tour- watching them build cars...it was a total treat. I've been there 5 times now and it never gets old seeing those guys and gals put together our little dream cars.

They take away our phones inside but we got to see a GT Silver with neodyne Weissach wheels GT3RS, along with some Sport Classics (almost all of them gray) and some GTS America Roadsters, GT4RS, and some blind person who did an all-red interior on their Shark Blue Turbo Cab. Cup cars are getting churned out right now in anticipation of 2023 season- so the only 'increase' in production for GT cars is going to be replacing the ~100 cup cars that are being made between now and February. They run 2-3 shifts at the factory nonstop and the small suppliers for the small funky pieces of carbon, or the wiring harnesses, or the mag wheels etc tend to be the ones that create delays. They can generally build a good amount of engines but you guys have to understand that Porsche is a for profit company and they are making as many cars as they can, nonstop. They are not a hyped up watch company that is trying to artificially deflate the supply.

These winged things look great in all colors- having seen the white/green one at Quail event and the silver/gold wheels one in person, and the early makings of a black one on the line...anyone getting an allocation (who can actually drive/will actually track it) is going to be in for a fun experience. The wing is hilariously large in person.

To address total production and overlap etc...dealers were given the 'entire calendar year of GT allocations' already. so, anything beyond this current allocation batch is definitely a 2024 but also probably built in 2024. I have a psychopath (said lovingly) client who is waiting til 2024 because 'he really wants his car to be PTS'. Our store got a lot less than I'd hoped for, and in terms of GT3 production from our allocation of 2023's they made ~80-90% of them as 2022's or this year in 2022 vs what we are getting in 2023...that slack is not entirely getting taken up by the 3RS- but by the Dakar (2500 units WW), the GTS, the Turbo/S, and GT4RS (made on same line as 911).

if you have a car coming be grateful and if you don't- just do more trackdays with whatever you have in your garage right now.

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Old 12-09-2022 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
this is the dumbest thing I’ve read on RL today and damn that’s a hurdle. 72 month 5% loan in CA with 10% tax is $4k per month. $500k is after tax, $25,000 per month in income. If you can’t make 25 > 4, sorry, but that’s a You problem, not a universal truth. Cut back on the hookers and blow and maybe you can afford a nice car
Don’t agree with criticism of this post, as everyone has different comfort zones with income/expense ratio, but damn it was funny. I chuckled on the throne.

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Old 12-09-2022 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ascend
500k is not enough to spend 300k on a car. Id say at least 1Mil pre tax to be able to spend 300k on a car.
Originally Posted by AlexCeres
this is the dumbest thing I’ve read on RL today and damn that’s a hurdle. 72 month 5% loan in CA with 10% tax is $4k per month. $500k is after tax, $25,000 per month in income. If you can’t make 25 > 4, sorry, but that’s a You problem, not a universal truth. Cut back on the hookers and blow and maybe you can afford a nice car
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Old 12-09-2022 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Yeah more stealer BS to instill a sense of urgency. As I've always said, trust stealers as far as you can throw them and Carlsen definitely falls into that category.
You might want to read what CJ posted the other day.
You're not making any sense. Or is CJ just another owner of a stealership to you?


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Old 12-09-2022 | 02:44 PM
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so what's the going rate for an incoming 2023 dealer spec car. Hoping for 25-40k but probably any dealer with one still wants 50+?
Old 12-09-2022 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Yc911Kid
so what's the going rate for an incoming 2023 dealer spec car. Hoping for 25-40k but probably any dealer with one still wants 50+?
I dont think there are any (maybe a handful) that are available to spec at all. You might get the one or two that people drop out on last minute, but doubtful you could call around and find a “specable” car for the .1 at this point.
Old 12-09-2022 | 04:38 PM
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Not pushing this guy, and can be hard to listen to ……..but some good nuggets for sure. I buy many of my cars from an exotic car dealer vs the norms and they pretty much say the same.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H9k-4YQGavw
Old 12-09-2022 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
You might want to read what CJ posted the other day.
You're not making any sense. Or is CJ just another owner of a stealership to you?
I trust CJ, I don't trust Carlsen.
Old 12-09-2022 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick787
Not pushing this guy, and can be hard to listen to ……..but some good nuggets for sure. I buy many of my cars from an exotic car dealer vs the norms and they pretty much say the same.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H9k-4YQGavw
What I get from the video is that cars which are highly desirable and rare will tend to hold value better. But I don't think this generally applies to Porsches, not even GT cars. All 911 GT cars are variants of a base 911, which isn't an overly expensive car, and we see that hundreds of 911 GT cars are currently for sale.

All of the bs and hype associated with getting a Porsche made me spend more time in the BMW showroom, resulting in my bring this home today. Fun car, very fast, cool tech, I love the aesthetic (all of my other cars are understated colors). I plan to track it.



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Old 12-09-2022 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
What I get from the video is that cars which are highly desirable and rare will tend to hold value better. But I don't think this generally applies to Porsches, not even GT cars. All 911 GT cars are variants of a base 911, which isn't an overly expensive car, and we see that hundreds of 911 GT cars are currently for sale.

All of the bs and hype associated with getting a Porsche made me spend more time in the BMW showroom, resulting in my bring this home today. Fun car, very fast, cool tech, I love the aesthetic (all of my other cars are understated colors). I plan to track it.

Agree, many cross shop cars and the info does bleed over to reference manufacturer behavior. Congrats on the ride, had a M4 it was heavy I hated the feel and told the wife to drive then sold it. Good luck with yours ……miss my E46 M3 last of the best M cars.
Old 12-09-2022 | 06:56 PM
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Another $250k sold price point on BAT ($196k MSRP), only 353 miles so essentially spanking new. It seems like the market is setting the going rate for a winged GT3 around $250k. Another several weeks ago on BAT sold for $245k.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...sche-992-gt3-5
Old 12-09-2022 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NeunEinsEins
Another $250k sold price point on BAT ($196k MSRP), only 353 miles so essentially spanking new. It seems like the market is setting the going rate for a winged GT3 around $250k. Another several weeks ago on BAT sold for $245k.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...sche-992-gt3-5
What if your wing car had a $250k MSRP?
Old 12-09-2022 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick787
Not pushing this guy, and can be hard to listen to ……..but some good nuggets for sure. I buy many of my cars from an exotic car dealer vs the norms and they pretty much say the same.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H9k-4YQGavw
This guy is legit. He knows what hes talking about.
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Old 12-09-2022 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
What I get from the video is that cars which are highly desirable and rare will tend to hold value better. But I don't think this generally applies to Porsches, not even GT cars. All 911 GT cars are variants of a base 911, which isn't an overly expensive car, and we see that hundreds of 911 GT cars are currently for sale.

All of the bs and hype associated with getting a Porsche made me spend more time in the BMW showroom, resulting in my bring this home today. Fun car, very fast, cool tech, I love the aesthetic (all of my other cars are understated colors). I plan to track it.

Nice garage. How much to build one like this one?


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