silverrules

I hear allocation's are based on date not MT/PDK.

Jimmy-D

^I think you are both sort of saying the same thing

chaosoul

Yes, as I said before. Allocations are given out to dealers on different production months.


There is no manual allocation or PDK allocation differentiation.


Manual transmission will not be allowed to be selected as an option for the first 2.5 months of allocations starting in July, because they won't be making them yet then. (Yes, even for VVIP clients).

Nick

I believe you have the numbers reversed. It will be more like 80% PDK and 20% MT. Regarding resale value, I think it will be a wash for this reason. The pool of buyers for used PDK will be significantly greater than the pool of used MT buyers.

chaosoul

I may have a small pool size of data at this moment, and also its too early to tell but without going into specific numbers to share, out of the 20 or so allocations I've seen actually given out to customers to build, more than 2/3 of them currently is ordering it in manual transmission.


Again, this can change with more data that I'll see in the next few months. People can also change their mind, since they got a couple months to change builds.


Also, the number in the very beginning will be lopsided PDK because the first 120 or so GT3 built will be only PDK. After that the Manual will begin playing catch up.

silverrules

So if my dealer has 4 allocations and the last allocation is build in October, could we spec that now and ask for MT? Or are all these allocations PDK?

chaosoul

Any allocations build in July through early September will be for PDK optioned only. They will not allow you to submit a build with Manual selected. The system will spit it back out.


October, for now, will be available for manual transmission option. Again, Porsche occasionally will have delays, so its never 100%.


If you want only MT then you better get that October allocation instead of the early ones. That is, I hope your dealer will give that specific allocation to you, as other people may be fighting over it if they want MT as well.

CAlexio

I just received an email from mclaren with an offer for a 12-month lease on a 570s or gt... the call it the "12 month test drive".. that all sounds fine, not intersting to me but a good idea for some. Interestingly at the bottom there is some mouse print which says:

"For every new car leased through this program, the buyer will have the option to get a guaranteed build slot for a new 720S at the end of the 12 months.
For more details, please reply to this email or call"

So.. here is another way to both drive interest in your upgrade supercar, (and the perception of imminent scarcity), while moving some of the lower margin inventory on your lot. They come clean and put in writing that you get a build slot if you buy another car first under their terms... the perfect guaranteed 2 car customer for Mclaren.. the clear and honest way of getting into their new hotness and become a repeat customer for you as a buyer.

Sounds pretty smart no?

silverrules

Thanks Chasoul. This is very helpfull. Going there tomorrow to hash this out.

Nick

They specify terms of the 12 month lease?

DUAlum

So I have read through this entire thread over a number of days….

Let me pose this scenario to the folks here.

Suppose you’re a smaller dealer. Within 200 miles there are a dozen other dealers, some of them very large, and who, on a relative basis, get a large number of allocations on the specialty cars and the harder to get models (Targa’s, GTS’s, Turbo S’s those regular lower production models). Let’s say you get 4 GT allocations this time. What price should you sell them at, MSRP or market? Who should get them? Only people technically in your area, or people within that 200 mile radius, or anyone who calls first, even if they’re a flipper? How should you prioritize who gets them?

Keeping in mind a couple of things:

1) You have a couple customers who have been loyal and bought GT cars or specialty cars from you in the past. You have other clients who have bought a few different 911’s from you over the years. You have many clients who have bought more than one new Porsche (SUV) from you over the years but not more than one 911.
2) You take every car you can get from Porsche. That means all those base Macans that you make nothing on. All “extra” 2016 Panamera Hybrids that you lost money selling. All the extra built cars like Cayman S’s with $100k stickers which you’ll sell for a loss, everything. You do that to try and get one more specialty car.
3) You get the crap shopped out of you on every SUV, where you slug it out over $200 to $500 and people will drive 100 miles to save that $500 bucks. You slug it out over 7 bucks a month on a lease because the even though the guy has been in 3 times and spent a couple hours with you, he called another dealer and showed them the price he beat you up over and they’re willing to do it for 7 bucks less a month.

I have read through this thread, and I read all the “stealership” comments, and the complaining about market adjustments, or not getting an allocation even though guys have bought a few cars at dealership X before. I am not saying some of those arguments are wrong or not relevant. I am also not advocating selling at “market price”. IMO MSRP is what you sign up for when you own a dealership and you really should sell em at MSRP. I am just interested in hearing what people think when you open up the discussion about GT allocations and consider more than just what happens with the GT cars.

BCMgunner

Thank you Chaosoul and Signes or the reply and great info!

81911

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PistolPete

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mooty

^stale ***.
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